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Grail Coin Acquired Ivdea Devicta

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Just received this today and I am thrilled to add it to my collection. While this mis listed as a common coin I would probably call it scarce. However that does not mean that they appear on the open market very often. When they do appear they command a high price. This is because of the historical events associated with this coin.

What is so special about yet another denarius of Vespasian? Take a look at the reverse. You will see Judea with hands bound with a palm tree. Fairly common IVDEA CAPTA type right? Nope. The reverse legend is the rather strong statement: IVDEA DEVICTA.

Here is another interesting fact, this coin was not struck in Rome like the very common RIC 2 we have all seen before with Judea and the trophy of arms besides. This coin was only struck in Lyon (Lugdunum). As a provincial issue I think the message is fairly clear: do not mess with the power of Rome or else. Minted early in Vespasian's reign I believe this coin was both a way of trumpeting a significant victory to the populous of Rome and the provinces ( a propaganda piece), and a not so subtle warning.

There is another interesting fact concerning this issue. Many of them are fourees. The reason is unknown When I ordered this coin it looked solid and I am happy to report that mine is not a fouree.

Look at this grumpy portrait. I love it! I am also a fan of the standing IVDEA rather than the more common seated version.

Vespasian AR Denarius. Lugdunum. 71 CE
(16.5mm 3.04g)
Obv: Head laureate right; IMP CAESAR VESPASIAVS AVG TR P.
Rev: Palm tree; to left Judea standing left; hands bound in front ; IVDEA DEVICTA
RIC 1120; BMC 388; RSC 243
Purchased from INumis August 3, 2020.


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08/24/2020 7:58 pm
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 Posted 08/24/2020  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, Andrew. Congrats. You've been steadily chipping away at the list of grail coins. Looks like an adjustment to the reverse description may be needed: "Judea standing right left"
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Quite right Bob! The error has been corrected. Thanks for catching this and thanks for the positive comments.

Oh and Bob, if you think I have been chipping away at grail coins lately you will like what I will post in a few days...2 denarii of Vespasian unlisted in RIC 2007! One of them is known from only 2 specimens including mine!
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Lovely coin!.....Wont repeat what I said before but maybe 'hands bound in front'?....Congrats a super addition to your impressive collection!...Paul
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Quote:
2 denarii of Vespasian unlisted...


Looking forward to that.


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...maybe 'hands bound in front'?


Yep.
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Thanks guys it has been corrected.
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Congrats
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