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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I returned home from the Westford Coin Show this morning with this old silver hammered 12 pence. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very Nice coin! Out of curiosity, when did the English stop using hammered coins and start milling? (I must admit that I don't have a copy of the 17th century standard catalog.)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5318 Posts |
Beautiful old coin! The details of handwork are great to see. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
Quote: Out of curiosity, when did the English stop using hammered coins and start milling? The first British milled coinage was in 1656 for the Oliver Cromwell coinage.
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Valued Member
Poland
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Wonderful coin, wonderful...! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3499 Posts |
AuldFartte- ah thank you very much! I Thought that it was around then.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1077 Posts |
12 pence? Were they not called shillings back then?
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
2703 Posts |
Thank you everyone! There were some early milled coins produced during Elizabeth's reign starting in 1561. Eloye Mestrelle was commissioned to produce machine-made coins using horsepower. Although these experimental coins were superior in quality, they took longer to produce than the hammered ones. Furthermore, they were unpopular because Mestrelle was a foreigner and mint workers feared that they would lose their jobs to the new technology. Therefore production of milled coins was discontinued during Elizabeth's reign after 1571. They were not introduced again until Nicholas Briot's issues in the 1630s. Here is a milled half-groat that I bought from Bob Vlack last year. These small milled denominations of Elizabeth are scarce. The planchets are usually wavy and often found pierced for jewelry. 
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
2703 Posts |
Quote: 12 pence? Were they not called shillings back then? Yes it is a shilling. I have seen the terms used interchangeably. This coin has "XII" just to the right of the King's bust to indicate its value of 12d.
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
2703 Posts |
A Charles I shilling without a ruffled collar. It has a nicer round flan but not as much detail. 
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2217 Posts |
Very nice coins Mr. Tibbitts - especially the Elizabeth coin :)
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
2703 Posts |
Thank you everyone. When I bought the "bust in ruff" schilling, my friend Richard said I had to take the 2d "bust in ruff" as well. It is a tiny coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2217 Posts |
He should've made you take the Penny too...oh and the sixpence, Half-Crown etc...
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