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Straits Settlements 1926 Ten Cents Coin Contemporary Or Modern Fake?

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 Posted 09/01/2020  12:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coins Mania to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please see attached, is it a contemporary or modern fake? Does it has any value as this coin is rarely imitated right?


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 Posted 09/01/2020  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What leads you to believe it isn't genuine?
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 Posted 09/01/2020  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have to ask the same. Looks fine to me. But cleaned
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 Posted 09/01/2020  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin does look suspect to me.
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Before I post the reasons, l would like to hear from Numis-Northerner his suspicion .

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Fake. No doubt in my mind.
Not enough consistency in the lettering.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The letters don't look sharp, looks struck in zinc or iron
there's a similar earlier post: http://goccf.com/t/133798
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Just by going with the OP's question, and if presuming the piece is not genuine in keeping with the question, I'd say guess a modern fake. But I'd like to see better quality pictures so the details are larger and more sharp.
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Sorry for a sort of late response. My reasoning was that, for one, the letters on the obverse look completely cast, the genuine ones were made with quite high quality, at least for the time, so that mushyness just seems suspect. Not to mention that the denticles are fully present, much like a strong EF to MS grade piece, yet the obverse is on the absolute best of days a F-12, but also the reverse looks to have almost full details (the lines through the denomination and the denticles) much like an EF grade piece.
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The weight is 2.24g
The real one 2.71g or slightly lower if worn down.

I attached photos of another pc I believe is real. Yes the words are sharp compare to the previous which is mushy or rounded at edge.

This pc weights 2.67g, lots of wear thou.

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I am puzzle why people would counterfeit it nowadays as it is very cheap coin in this part of the world. Like to hear views from the rest.
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Just to add, for the quality of the surprisingly Real piece I just posted above. One can get for about USD$1 +-

Is it worth to counterfeit?
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Legends tell of a famous forger in Penang who made high quality fakes of Straits and Malaya coins in the 80s and 90s. He was eventually found out and charged. Many of his coins are still circulating in the collecting community, this might be his.

This was regaled to me by a senior collector - whether true or not is lost to the mists of coin legend.


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@ Albert,

As per requested a near view of the fake piece. Hope that helps.


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a lot easier to see the surface I. That one
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The other you posted is genuine in my opinion
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coin mama I think one you believe is fake might be real that it was siting in some sort of acidic environment that why it has a heavy wear and beat down look to it mushy.
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