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2 Pieces: 1910 Arabic Medal + Modern Coin?

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 Posted 11/26/2008  11:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The medal seems to be dated 1910, any info on the country or event is appreciated.

The coin doesn't look very old, but I still can't figure out where it's from.

Thanks!

2-Pieces:-1910-Arabic-Medal-+-Modern-Coin?

2-Pieces:-1910-Arabic-Medal-+-Modern-Coin?

2-Pieces:-1910-Arabic-Medal-+-Modern-Coin?

2-Pieces:-1910-Arabic-Medal-+-Modern-Coin?
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 Posted 11/27/2008  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Numismat,

these are not arabic. The medal may be turkish because of the crescent and the star, hope that another member will correct me if I am wrong.

The other pic wether a coin or medal have a writing "Mubarak Baw" which I dont know what does that mean because these are arabic letters but not words.

It may be the name of a person.

Hope I could help
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 Posted 11/27/2008  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, I forgot to say that the date on the medal is 1227 if this is AH then I think the date would be 1860 and not 1910

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The medal to me seems more Indonesia/Malaya/Pacific Asian than it does anything else. The latin is frustrating to me also. "Sovereign's mere motion King Augustus I Golden Island." That's part of the inscription on the European style coat of arms on the obverse as well.
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And on the date! Amr gives it as 1227, but the Roman numerals on the bottom give a date 99 years later; 1328. The 1227 date is part of the crest or coat of arms, but I feel the medal itself is dated at 1328. It really doesn't look 140 years old.
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One thing I noticed on the first is how the "word" on the reverse is repeated 4 times.
Now that Amr has confirmed my suspicions, It's not an alphabet I've ever seen either.
I suspect it's a fantasy coin or medal, and there appears to be a spot to engrave a name.
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 Posted 11/27/2008  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting stuff guys! I noticed the AH1328, thus the 1910 date. There is also a stamp on the edge that reads "Bronze" in English, so maybe the fantasy coin theory is correct.
Still looking for the other coin, can't find a thing =(
Thanks!
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And on the date! Amr gives it as 1227, but the Roman numerals on the bottom give a date 99 years later; 1328. The 1227 date is part of the crest or coat of arms, but I feel the medal itself is dated at 1328. It really doesn't look 140 years old.


I agree Kitty, I didnt notice the roman numerals on the bottom
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 Posted 11/28/2008  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both are mysteries to me. Neither are coins.

For the first one, there are two other observations I'd make: The "Arabic" on the obverse is the same word, repeated four times. I don't know why they'd do that, unless it's a fantasy that's trying to "look foreign". And on the reverse, there's the designer's name, incuse: looks like A. PATRIARCHI or something similar.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My translation: "By his own accord, King and founder of the Empire of the Golden Island". I suspect some micronation issue.
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 Posted 11/29/2008  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DCH, thanks for the info... are you referring to the first or second piece?
Thanks!
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Numismat, I was refering to the first piece, just a translation I pieced together from different online sources.
A word for word translation doesn't seem to work, but translating phrases made some sense:
Augustus Primus=Founder of the Empire
Proprio Motu=by ones own accord

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Ahh, ok then. Thank you for clearing that up. It'll help in my research.
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