1971 S Silver Ike Dollar, Peg Leg & Unlisted Doubled Die Reverse / DDR

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JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 3:59 pm To save myself from uploading a bunch of photos I just took these few and I will upload more if needed, if you look closely you can see splits in the "L" the bottom left of the "A" and bottom left of the "R" in "DOLLAR". Also some of the stars have splits as well, I looked on wexlers and variety vista but I could not come up with a listing that matches. Photos were taken through the plastic case it came in and the black insert messes with my lighting so hopefully these photos will suffice. Would this be a new listing? It does look similar to the 1971-S $1 Pr WDDR-018 listing on wexlers but the obverse does not have the WWHO-003 that is listed as a die marker. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff

spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 4:16 pm Quote: if you look closely How closely? In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4402 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 4:21 pm I do see the minor splits, so it is hub doubling of some kind. Figuring out the doubled dies from the doubled working hubs on the Eisenhowers is pretty tricky though, and I have no experience. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 4:35 pm Quote: How closely? Not close enough to put strain on your eyes, in natural light with a loupe its easy enough to see without issue. Now replicating what I see using a camera and lighting its not as easy through the case. I can see the splits just fine in the photos provided if you know where to look for them. Quote: I do see the minor splits, so it is hub doubling of some kind. Figuring out the doubled dies from the doubled working hubs on the Eisenhowers is pretty tricky though, and I have no experience. Thank you Tanman2001, I am not very familliar with the Ike dollars and I got this within a bulk lot of random mint sets from US and Canada, I do recall reading about the Einsehower dollars having doubled dies and doubled working hubs and quite a bit of listings being removed/added so I'm just trying to sort out where this one stands within the mix. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
Gincoin43 Pillar of the Community United States 1543 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 4:49 pm Could we see the "RICA" of America. Preferably without the case. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 9:26 pm There is a very light spread in AMERICA that shows subtle splits in "ERICA" on the tips of the devices. I checked variety vista again and looked at the Working Hub listings for 1971 S proof dollars and this doubling is not in those listings either. I'm leaning towards this being a DDR and not a doubled working hub due to the doubling looking very similar to the doubling on the 1971-S $1 Pr WDDR-018 The doubling on this coin goes from a light spread in "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" to a medium spread in "ONE DOLLAR" with sublt doubling in the stars and the olive branch leaf under the FG initials. The dot between "E.PLURIBUS" looks to be doubled as well. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4402 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 9:51 pm I'm having difficulty seeing any doubling on these new pics. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 09/28/2020 10:13 pm Tanman2001, if you look on the "E" of the first photo you will see splits on the top right serif, its subtle and might pass off to some as a shadow, same with the last "A" of America on the bottom left serif, however I have light blasting at the coin from a 90 degree angle so I know it is not just a shadow. Most of the visible doubling is actually on the bottom of the coin on "ONE DOLLAR" but due to the cameo and the reflections this coin is really hard to photograph, but with a loup and natural light I have no issues seeing what I am trying to show since I can rotate the coin with different angles of light so my apologies. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 09/29/2020 2:12 pm I tried to take better photos and hopefully these will help show what I am seeing. These photos were taken with the coin out of the case. You can see a spread in the "AR" of dollar. Here you see the second "L" of "DOLLAR", with a split on the top right tip, bottm left tip and the right tip of the "L". Here is a lighter photo of "LA" from "DOLLAR" showing the split on the "L" and the spread in the "A". Darker close up of the "A" in "DOLLAR". Darker close up of the "R" in "DOLLAR". Again, with a loup and natural light these areas are easy to see, photographing them on the other hand is not as easy. I have been looking online to try and differentiate it from a DDR or a Doubled working hub and it looks more like a DDR than the listings for the doubled working hub shown on variety vista. Hopefully these images will help show what I am seeing. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
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1971 S Silver Ike Dollar, Peg Leg & Unlisted DDR