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Valued Member
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Found this 1972 LMC after opening a new CR today. Well, I immediately noticed something strange about the date. The 7 has a straight ridged line above it. And, both the 7 and the 2 are thickened. I looked at Wexler and Variety Vista but could not find a DDO listing involving the 7 and 2, just the 2. Any opinion as to what is going on here? Thanks for your help.   
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Pillar of the Community
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MD as the devises are reduced in size.
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JIM0815, not sure I understand your comment "all the devices are reduced in size." Are you saying the the 7 and 2 are both reduced in size? What about the 1 and the 9? Those as well? And are you saying the 7 is MD--and none of the other numbers? Please, provide more to explain.... Thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
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The 7 and 2 are the most dramatic, but I see a bit on the 1 and 9 as well. Just Machine Doubling as Jim said. I suggest using a variety listing like variety vista or wexler's die varieties so you know what the real things are supposed to look like.
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Valued Member
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SamCoin--If you read my initial post, you would have realized I did check Wexler and Variety Vista before I posted. So, stop the condescending attitude about my post. Clearly, I said there was thickening on the 7 and the 2. You do know that different varieties are discovered occasionally, don't you? I'm not advocating I found one--but I wanted some helpful information, not insults. I still believe that there is something more going on here than MD. Are there any other possibilities? Why would only the 7 have such a large overhead ridge line, and not the other devices next to it? And, the 7 and the 2 do look thickened, don't they? C'mon community, let me know your thoughts.
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Bedrock of the Community
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To me, just MD. 
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Valued Member
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CoinFrog and SamCoin--I want to learn where to identify MD as your are. Can you show me an example similar to this where one device (here, the 7) has a large area of ridging/doubling above it...and the other devices next to it do not have similar levels of ridging/doubling?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: stop the condescending attitude I for one don't see Sam's comment as condescending. I agree with Sam's comments that there is Machine Doubling throughout the date on your coin, although more noticeable in the 72. I would research more to see the difference between Machine Doubling and double dies. There are many articles here on CCF to help. Double dies are fairly rare, where Machine Doubling is quite common.
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Valued Member
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Merclover---Well, SamCoin missed the fact that I had already checked Wexler and Variety Vista, which indeed I had. So, leave it at that. Can you provide an example of MD that is similar to what is alleged to be occurring in this coin? I have been looking for one in the "authorities" and have not seen one. If it's not MD, what are the other possibilities?
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New Member
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umm.. I'm just saying..  Don't mind me I'm just observing.
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Valued Member
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I looked at a post by Coop addressing MD--See below. But none of the images in Coop's post show coins with images of the devices like that seen on my coin where you have one number with a large ridging/doubling, but none of the other adjacent numbers with similar ridging/doubling. So, can anyone help with further information, or other possibilities? http://goccf.com/t/320844
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Valued Member
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Crickets.... Is it clear MD, or are there other possibilities? C'mon Community. Look forward to your input.
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Forum Dad
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Forum Dad
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Quote: Crickets.... Is it clear MD, or are there other possibilities? C'mon Community. Look forward to your input. You mention someone being condescending earlier.... I can tell you for sure that your attitude will get you nowhere fast here.
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Valued Member
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Bobby131313 and all CC folks, my apologies if my posts ruffled any feathers. I of course consulted Wexler and VV before my initial post, and I was criticized for not doing so--so that is what generated my ire. I was only reacting to that response which I felt was not warranted or helpful. Again, my apologies. I've looked at the MD information on CC and have seen no similar images that provide help or confirmation it is MD we see on this coin. There have been several 1972 LMC DDOs discovered reported by Wexler which affect only the 2 (see WDDO-004 and WDDO-009) and both the 7 and the 2 (see WDDO-005). That's what prompted me to raise the possibility it might be a DDO. Thanks for your help.
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Valued Member
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Also, see WDDO-013. DDO was confirmed involving only the 7 and 2 and the devices look reduced.
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