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Identify Early Hammered British Groat.

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 Posted 10/09/2020  08:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just picked this up in an "old timers" collection. He had it labelled as Henry VII. But it doesn't look like the mint mark is from the right monarch.

Can someone help me identify this please. Maybe a Spink number as well?


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 Posted 10/09/2020  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Badger Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scottish, Looks to be King Robert Edenborough mint, I don't have any Scotland reference books but this is a start.
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Yes - I think Robert III of Scotland, definitely Edinburgh mint. I have only one reference that covers these - an old Coincraft book. In there I think it is the third of 3 varieties given the reference SR34D-020 - the second scarcest of the 3.
Interesting and unusual coin - well found!

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Rather a nice example in my opinion and I'd rather have it over a Henry VII groat.

Robert III, Edinburgh mint
7 arc double tressure, tall front-facing bust
Saltire stops obv/rev
Voided long cross with cross pattee MM

ROBERTVS DEI GRA REX + SCOTORVM = Robert King of the Scots by the Grace of God (only one T in SCOTORVM)

Inner rev. legend is VILLA EDINBURGH

Outer rev. legend is D(OMI)N(U)S P(RO)TECTOR M(EU)S "I" LIB(ER)ATOR M(EUS) = God (is) My Protector And My Redeemer -- with lacunae added in --

Note that the "I" is actually a scribal abbreviation (ligature e-t) for "et", it looks like an "I" with a crossbar in the middle.
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