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1886 Cent- 6/6? However, Is It OBV 1A?

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1886 obv 2? large cent 6/6
According to Charlton,the famous large cent variety issue, the 6/6 appears only on the obv 1a.
However, I believe this coin is not an obv 1a, but is IMO a 6/6 obv 2.
your input is much appreciated, thanks
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Yes, that's an Obv 2, but the mint didn't segregate Reverse dies to only go with 1a, or 2 Obverses. They mixed and matched the die marriages, depending on what was with an arm's reach when installing the dies into the holders.
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Here is a link to another thread discussing this coin. It's not the same reverse as the one in the back of Charlton. This reverse is paired with a C2 obverse. It's a nice variety.

http://goccf.com/t/302806&SearchTerms=1886
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Also remeber the last digits on any large cents at anytime could of been repunched by hand causing doubling to happen.
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You CAN NOT take the 2011 Charlton as the bible on varieties. The 5 of us put together popular or moderately discussed Vicky varieties from website forums, as well as items we each had found. We listed just the "types" of varieties that you could expect to find when looking for Vicky anomalies. We also decided to include at least one example for every date in the Vicky series. We were restricted to 80 only and had a list of way over 100 that we could list before Charlton put the 80 limit on us. For 1858-1881 (the ones that most of us had done the most study on) we included those that had large offsets or were very interesting. The 2011 Charlton just shows EXAMPLES of what can be found. It is not a laundry list of what is available. Even not going into die-tracking like the Haxby site, there are probable way over 200 Vicky varieties that doesn't evolve into nitpicking. The study was done just to show what a person COULD find. For 1886, the final digit WAS handpunched, as are many Vicky dates. As such, you will find any number of dates that have the final digit "repunched". It's not really repunched ... it's a floor worker trying to take a handpunch and make it hit in the same place for 2 or more whacks to complete the die. All of the info in the 2011 Charlton was completed by us prior to June 2010, so that it could be put in the 2011 edition... anything discovered or discussed after that on CCRS or other sites won't be in there.
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that must have been eeeeeeeeeeendless hours, nights and days...
thank you
perhaps that might also be the reason why ICCS does not specify many of the varieties as it could be slightly different with the next coin.
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All of the varieties listed (and then priced) had to be EXACTLY like the coin pictured and ICCS/Trends have included some of them. The variety was named to have all the markers and design eccentricities as the one shown and described. Yes, it did take a long time with hoops that had to be jumped through before publication. The photos that we submitted were modified by Charlton to black&white, greatly reduced, and not as clear so that the photos could be coped and printed. However, it was the FIRST variety section done by collectors and not dealers or TPG's or auctioneers. There have been a few on other denominations that have followed in Charlton by individuals or small cadres. It marked the seemingly first variety update since Griifin's book or the Zoell pamphlets. It doesn't seem like 10 years ago, but it was and all of the variety sections that followed increased the interest to collectors into all types of denominations and/or monarchs. More books and references have been completed in the last 10 years that have greatly helped our numismatic community.
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