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THIS PENNY CAME FROM THE SAME COLLECTION AS THE NO DATE PENNY.  B O N U S A WHILE BACK I SAID I WOULD SHOW A PIC OF A TONED 1964 PENNY. I BOUGHT 6 ROLLS OF UNCIRCULATED 1964 PENNIES AND OPENED 2. THIS WAS ONE OF THE ENDS.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The rim all the way around that 1938 looks flattened down. Suggest to me that it is PMD. I'd look for sanding marks with a microscope. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Please, ONE coin per thread. Thank you. More than a single coin only confuses things. Speaking only of the first coin, the cent with a featureless back, this is not a mint error. Someone has deliberately sanded down the reverse for whatever reason (perhaps the beginning of a Magician's coin?). Clearer, larger SHARP photos would help. |
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I guess him being a magician does make sense. I got collection from a man that was liquidating his late uncles (WWII fighter pilot) coin collection for his aunt. He sent a picture of the man, he didnt look like a magician but if he was he could have removed the date from the other penny too. Magician fits.
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after using the microscope and then looking at the first 2 pictures I'm not sure how much sharper the first two pics could have been.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your photos are too blurry to tell anything. It would help if you removed the coin from the 2x2 holder. Try using a cell phone's camera (at about a 5X zoom) rather than a microscope is my recommendation.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Getting the weight of the "uniface" coin will help determine what happened.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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 United States
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The 1938 cent is PMD not an error. Always best to remove coins from 2x2 holders before taking photos,always. John1  |
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i havent removed it from the flip because it has been in it for many many many years and I hate to be the one to expose it now. I value your opinion and you may be absolutely right. I honestly hope that you are basing this factual based statement on the fact that you yourself have tried to sand off or remove any part of a coin successfully so you know what it looks like right?
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i find it very hard to believe that this coin maintained exactly the same color and wear patterns as the front of the coin after undergoing this damage you claim someone did to it.
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im saying so based only on common sense not because I know for a fact and I am wrong a lot so I wont be surprised if I am.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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so when the coin is punched from the strip, it is called a blank, it is completely flat,and rimless.. then it goes through the upsetting machine, the blank is now called a planchet, as it now has a raised edge/rim around the coin, now the planchet is ready to be struck,,
So for a coin to be missing the raised edge on only one side, it had to be done after it left the mint.
As for the color if it was sanded or ground off 60 years ago, the coin wear, would remove most evidence of the intial damage, and the coin would tone the same on both times over time..
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United States
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Jrvaults, Here is a thought: send in all of your errors and or varieties to a third party grader ( PCGS,NGC.ANACS) that you trust and let us know what they said. John1 Edited by John1
10/19/2020 08:42 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Deliberately ground down, for whatever reason. Not an error.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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When you look closer, you can see the sanding scratches. The coin was altered. If the coin was a mint error, then the weight would be normal. Some have thought that two planchets were struck at once. But when that happens they are bonded together:    Note the center coin is actually two bonded/fused together. (This is the only example I've seen of this happening. Most of the times these are altered to create a supposed error coin, but are not the real deal. Edited by coop
10/19/2020 10:25 am
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