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I just started hoarding cam Franklin's. Any one collect PR Franklin's with cameo? I want to make a cam short set from 1950 to 1963. It looks like it can be done with high grade coins of low pops for 200 to 3500 a coin. The 1950, 51, and 52 are very hard to find. Although I have 3 1959 67 cams and, I made my first purchased for a 1953 PR67 cam at 1000 dollars. I am exuberant in putting together this set. the 1950, 51, 52 , 53, 58, and 59 seem like the best investment. Any thought on this? Wile high grade PR 68 cam to PR 69 dcam of the more common dates are still obtainable at a relatively low cost. Such as the 1954, 56, 57 60, 61, 62 ,63. Take a look at the picture to see why this series is so nice. If you have a story or, a pic. please post.    Edited by Vic
02/13/2006 11:30 am
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The old bald guy never looked so good.  Great looking coins. Jason |
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As a collector of PF Franklin PF66 with some cameo and the highest coin will be 1950 and it will be around $600.
Here are a few tips and such....
If you want good PF Franklins buy NGC or ANACS slab PF Franklins...they are harder on the Franklin set than PCGS and therefor you will get better coins....also since they are graded by NGC or ANACS they will sell cheaper.
The hardest ones to get are 1958 1959....the rest are pretty easy to find in any grade with CAMEO but these are hard to find a good high grade with CAMEO.
I would also suggest taking your time and making sure its the coin you want...I've spent about 5+ years and I think it will take about 1 more to get the last 4 I need.
Also be willing to pay more than the price guide for some of these coins...I paid over $10 more for a 1954 PF66 NGC than the price guide said.
All in all its a great set!
Speedy
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Hi Vic
Cam Franklins are a pretty coin, I have several but as with the rest of my collection they are raw,,
I just cant make myself pay a premium for a coin just because it is in a slab,,
Rick
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It's been difficult finding nice raw franklins, most I've come across are already slabbed. Although I don't like slabs I'll probably have to look in that direction in order to find good quality.
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Those coins in the slabs had to come from some place !!
Patients and persistence and quanitity are keys to locating the raw coins,, I enjoy the pursuit as much as the aquisition.
Rick
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Originally posted by Metalman
Those coins in the slabs had to come from some place !!
Patients and persistence and quanitity are keys to locating the raw coins,, I enjoy the pursuit as much as the aquisition.
Rick
Hear, hear! Trying to assemble a decent collection from raw coins is the most fun I've had hunting since I quit hunting. The thrill of the chase is really amazing when you consider just how slowly it goes.  |
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Thanks speedy for the info.
I did notice some nice ngc slabs at lower cost, I thought they were easy on the cameo effect and, pcgs was harder?
Although I did notice that most of the ngc PR68 coins Have cleaner black fields than the pcgs slabs, I just want to make sure the cameo effect (snow) will at least cross in a pcgs holder to a cameo coin.
What do you think?
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CAMEO is a hard thing to judge....if you don't think it would cross don't get it...
I got one of my best PF Franklin from Rick Tomaska---
NGC might be a little looser on the CAMEO and how heavy it must be...but you can find GEMS in either slabs.
Unless you are just wanting them I wouldn't try to cross over to PCGS.
PCGS has a name for themselfs....and its not for consistancy--if you research both NGC is more consistance.
All in all NGC is harder on this coin than PCGS...so at PCGS it might get an upgrade---but don't hold your breath.
All in all what matters is not what holder they are in....or what grade they are in....all that matters is that you like them and want them in your collection!
Speedy
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I have completed my Franklin collection, but they sure don't look like the one pictured!!
If I had the money, I would like a set. But I don't, so I will remain happy with what I have. Cameo Franklins are beautiful coins.
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I was thinking of buying this book by Rick Tomaska, "The Complete Guide to Franklin half dollars" Anyone read it? |
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Pretty Frankies Vic. Thanks for the pics.
regarding appreciation, I wonder if fully struck examples will apreciate more quickly than others- I only bring that up because you asked specifically about that aspect (Investment). There are some years where cameo or DCAM/UCAM designations are uncommon in high grades, and I would imagine that those would appreciate the most-or perhaps those just slightly more common than the highest graded DCAMs Don
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02/13/2006 6:53 pm
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shatsi--yes buy it!...great book ! If anyone is interested his ebay store is here. http://stores.ebay.com/R-I-Coins_W0...ameZl2QQtZkmDon-- Yes I think they will always be worth more IN SOME CASES (ie: 1953-S FBL)...but I don't think anyone can say that they apreciate faster. As the term CAMEO/UCAM/DCAM or FBL for Franklins and others like FH and FSB and FS have just been developed in the last 20+ years it is really too eary to say what will happen--I don't see an end for these in sight but I do think that they will slow down and prices will either stay the same or drop some--just this passed year we saw that a FS Nickel for a year in the 70's brought thousands of dollars-- One thing about your post that I don't think is total right is that you don't get DCAM or CAM or UCAM with a coin that is FBL...if you get FBL than the coin is UNC...if you get CAM/UCAM/DCAM (DCAM and UCAM are the same thing...PCGS uses one and NGC uses the other.)for PF Franklins--in PF Franklins its a good idea to check the Bell lines to to see what kind of strike you are getting but that doesn't count in with the grading. Speedy Edited by Speedy
02/13/2006 6:03 pm
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Originally posted by Speedy
shatsi--yes buy it!...great book !
If anyone is interested his ebay store is here.
http://stores.ebay.com/R-I-Coins_W0...ameZl2QQtZkm
Don--
Yes I think they will always be worth more IN SOME CASES (ie: 1953-S FBL)...but I don't think anyone can say that they apreciate faster.
As the term CAMEO/UCAM/DCAM or FBL for Franklins and others like FH and FSB and FS have just been developed in the last 20+ years it is really too eary to say what will happen--I don't see an end for these in sight but I do think that they will slow down and prices will either stay the same or drop some--just this passed year we saw that a FS Nickel for a year in the 70's brought thousands of dollars--
One thing about your post that I don't think is total right is that you don't get DCAM or CAM or UCAM with a coin that is FBL...if you get FBL than the coin is UNC...if you get CAM/UCAM/DCAM (DCAM and UCAM are the same thing...PCGS uses one and NGC uses the other.)for PF Franklins--in PF Franklins its a good idea to check the Bell lines to to see what kind of strike you are getting but that doesn't count in with the grading.
Speedy
Speedy, You're right about the FBL designation NOT being applied by TPGs for proofs. Of course many proofs wouldn't meet the criteria if they were applied... Don |
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Right....the strike on a even a Proof most of the time doesn't have the strike of a FBL strike.
I only have a few that would get that grade if they used it on Proofs.
Speedy
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