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New Member
Australia
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Hi everyone, I recently purchased this 1925 penny and I am a little worried about its appearance. I think perhaps it has been cleaned or possibly even fake. It is quite bright but not so shiny. I assume if it has been cleaned it is not worth grading? I hope these photos show it well. Thanks!    |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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where did you buy it, and how much did you pay, do you have return options?
In ef it is worth over 2,000$.. I would never buy this date without it being certified..
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
599 Posts |
It has definitely been cleaned.
Its not worth getting graded.
Possibly a fake ? Yes.
Watch your top knot
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 1925 cent is above my pay grade.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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You should be worried by it's appearance.
Red without luster doesn't add up.
About 10 years ago, the Chinese decided to target rare pre decimal Australian coins.
Pictures of 1925 Pennies, similar the example posted were published in the Coin and Banknote Magazine some years ago.
It's too good for me to authenticate from screen shot pictures.
Have it checked by Downies or Noble Numismatics. Both companies would have a few come across their counters in the last 10 years or so. They can't afford to make a mistake.
I haven't specialized in Australian coins for many decades.
Sorry about that.
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Valued Member
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Agreed with all above - although I don't specialize in these issues, it seems to me that the harsh cleaning was used to hide mushy details and anomalies that might point to a Chinese fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
It may? be harsh cleaning, but the possibility that it was centrifugal pressure diecast needs to be investigated; the surface texture is suggestive of this technique.
Such a technique does not produce casting bubbles, but it does produce a product with fine detail.
Die cast zinc has been used for toymaking for many decades.
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New Member
 Australia
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Thank you all, I have organized a refund. Very much appreciate your input.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I cases like this, it is good to doubt the doubter as well (me, in this case), but the essential need to investigate remains.
I think the seller for whatever motivation got it wrong, but even the doubter should leave at some room to doubt himself, albeit small on this occasion.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Not AU sorry more closer VF and clean harshly, yes it seem too shiny for its age but I think it probably due to the clean it had.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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No doubt the OP's coin has been cleaned.
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New Member
Australia
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To me it looks as though it is a cast and brushed coin , no a struck coin.
Hard to tell from a photo as it could well be very harshly cleaned.
As for AU , even without the cleaning it would hardly grade to Fine+ . Once cleaned it doesn't even make the G to VG grade.
Send it back...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It does look cleaned...too much luster for the wear...can anyone pint out the diagnostics for a genuine 1925?
KK
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