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Valued Member
United States
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Hey if anyone could give me some information on this coin would be awesome.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
 United States
128 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Poor quality fake. A "one glance" fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Terrible fake. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Contrary to others I think it's a fairly decent fake. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is...if your INTENT is to make a bad fake, in which case they did a good job of it.
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New Member
United States
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So from a newbie's perspective, you know what would help 1,000 fold? a few more words what each observed to make the conclusion 'obvious fake', 'bad fake', etc.
What stood out?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Many things are wrong with it. Let's see...
1) Wrong position of branch 2) Fat stars 3) Wrong date font 4) Wrong angle of "Liberty" ribbon's end 5) Idiotic "ninja turtles" eagle's breast plate 6) Wrong, partially missing text font on reverse 7) Missing berries 8) etc. etc. etc.
Edited by NumisEd 11/21/2020 5:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fred, In a case like this (and in a lot of cases of Counterfeit Detection), the easiest way to tell is by just comparing a known genuine example to this one. The stars and eagle are probably the easiest thing to point out, they look comically bad. Eventually, you can get a "feel" for counterfeit coins, where you can tell if a coin is genuine without even necessarily knowing what the original coin is supposed to look like. Things like inconsistently weak devices, grainy texture, or soft and undefined devices are all dead giveaways for a cast counterfeit or poor quality fake coin. The coins that are difficult to spot as fakes are usually so good that it would be hard to tell from pictures alone. Things like weight, well captured close-ups of die markers, or XRF analyzers would be some of the only ways to clock a well made fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fred, for me, my eye was immediately drawn to the pebbly texture on the arms, face, neck, and olive leaves. No US mint struck coin looks like that. Next, the flat areas below her butt and leg and all around that area, completely missing any detail. Next a quick look at the reverse and that cartoon of an eagle, and I decided "fake" in a total of less than 10 seconds. Taking a second look, the large missing chunks of letters on the reverse jump out. On better fakes, I would pull up an image from Heritage and start comparing smaller details, but this one is just garbage. I'm no expert but I've looked at a lot of "is this real?" posts over the years and learned from them.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you all... your input was NOT in vain as I will take the noted points and do some homework. Yes, I kind of guessed comparing to a known good specimen is part of the solution - what I will do now is make that comparison. I can only imagine how 'far off' is a gradient - from "even I can see it" to something that you all may see easily bit I will struggle with.
This helps a lot.
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