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So, more than a month ago I took out this coin from it's storage where it was placed for several years. I couldn't decide whether to add it into my collection since it was too shined up (which I truly hate). So I left it on the table.. for a few weeks..

I took this photo on 11/22/08. As you can see, one side (the up-side) has become spotted. The other one (which was touching the table) is still artificially shiny (you can see that there are no spots on the eagle).
Since then nothing has changed.

Please tell me what do you think how this might have happened over 3 or 4 weeks. The coin when it was first taken out from the album had no spots whatsoever. The album page was PVC-free according to the coin dealer.

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 Posted 12/06/2008  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume you'd have noticed if other silver objects in the general vicinity were toning at the same rate (silverware, ornaments, other coins). The coin was cleaned/polished, you say? That may have "sensitized" the surface, making it tarnish faster than a mint-fresh uncleaned coin would have.

But still, a month seems pretty quick for such colouration to occur. We can rule out strange chemicals coming out of the table itself, since the side touching the table is unharmed. Was the coin sitting in the sun? Sunlight will accelerate toning; many silver compounds turn black on exposure to sunlight; leaving a cleaned coin on a windowsill for a few months is a standard method for "naturally retoning" a cleaned coin.

If not, then I'd suspect a sulfur-laden atmosphere. What kind of atmospheric environment was the coin in?
- Are there polluting industries nearby (eg. steel works)?
- Are you burning coal or heating oil such that the fumes wil be hanging around?
- Are any high-sulfur objects stored nearby (eg. rubber, eggs)?
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In reply to your post:
* other coins that were lying nearby did get very few (two-five) tiny spots. Really not noticeable unless you look closely. I assume all of them were cleaned but not to this extent.
* now that you mentioned sunlight this particular place does get the most sunlight in this room, particularly in the morning. It is quite near the window. And since during the last two weeks we did get the "beautiful" November weather (one sort of sunny day in two weeks) the slowing/stopping of the process makes sense.
* it does turn black in the spot that the toning is the most intense (near the mintmark, not really visible in the photos).
* there is practically no industry left in this town, the only one nearby makes furniture and protective/working clothes (located about 200 meters away).
* we're not burning coal, though the neighbours do.

Hope this helps.
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Very odd, my guess is it's some residue from cleaning.... that once it got to the air and sunlight it became visible. But that's a wild guess and maybe not a good one.
I did see something similar (key word similar) - the wife of a friend of mine was a nurse. She pressed her uniform in the same room his coin desk was and she used spray starch which got into the air and collected on some of his coins.
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In case it is caused by airborne organic material such as from cooking, heating oil, etc., it might be worth a rinse in acetone or xylene to see if it is actually bonded to the metal of the coin or just stuck on the surface.

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