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1987-D LMC - Underlying Zinc Issues?

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This is the 1987D LMC that, at first glance, I thought might have been DDO-001. (The MM location on this coin is not the same as DDO-001.)
VV Link to DDO-001http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20...7DDDO001.htm

There is some clear doubling on BER of LIBERTY(not MD) that resembles the doubling in the link above. There is also minor amounts of split plating issues, some stronger than others. (Imagine that, on a Zincoln.)

The coin had a lot of "cup holder" type environmental damage. I "traded" the details grade (environmental) for a details grade (environmental/cleaned) coin to get better images by soaking in Hydrogen peroxide and applying a cotton swab. Peroxide did a decent job and it's currently in Acetone to see if the residual greenish goop can be removed.

Look at the images and let me know your thoughts on what may have caused the doubling.

I truly appreciate everyone here and hope you take the time to add your insight. Thanks, PP55

(The first images are before the peroxide soak.)

1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?
1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?

These are after the soak.


1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?
1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?
1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?
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1987-D-LMC---Underlying-Zinc-Issues?
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Very commonly confused for a DDO, but it is just zinc rot
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I've read on this forum somewhere that the lines on the letters is caused from a worn die. You can tell there is Die Deterioration as the letters in your closeups seem to be migrating towards the rim. The migration shows on the date also in your first pic.
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Thanks TCD and Rothery.

It does have some Die Deterioration but the depressions on BER remind me of a cake that has "fallen" on the interior part. The edges stay raised while the interior sinks. I'm not seeing any notching on the corners.

I think the depressions on this coin are from where the zinc has dissolved away (like a form of "zinc rot" as TCD said). I usually associate zinc rot to pinpoints or holes in the surface that allows moisture to accelerate the breakdown of the zinc.
It sure mimicked the doubling on the DDO variety pretty well and I just wanted to share for others to see as well.

Thanks again.
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