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Pillar of the Community
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Reverse pics please?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
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 Coin is a little banged up and concaved out on this side. |
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Canada
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Most likely vise job by the looks of it.
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Pillar of the Community
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serious heat has been applied....what is incuse.....what is not......many questions
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Red flags all over this one. Not a legit double strike, in my opinion.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Whatever it is, it is not a vise job, everything I am seeing is raised on the Obverse but weak pressure makes it look "incuse" in some spots. Just look at photo 2 and 4, the backwards "E" from "ETH II" is completely raised, the second set of beads protruding from the rim, raised. The "G" in "D.G." is raised. Typically I would assume a double strike, however the issue with that, is everything is not only raised but also reversed. So the hubbing process came to mind, however even with that and my understanding of how the hubbing process works, whatever this is dident happen during the hubbing either. I highly doubt anyone would waste time trying to make an "Error" counterfeit on a common Canadian small cent like this either IMO. Reverse side just looks like PMD, which is kind of a bummer but still a good find, whatever it is. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007
01/26/2021 3:06 pm
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Just to correct everyone the second strike is inscurred. I have red flags to but question the pressure to split the planchet that a vise maybe cant do. Just want to make sure this coin is legit.
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I highly doubt anyone would waste time trying to make an "Error" counterfeit on a common Canadian small cent like this either IMO. Don't underestimate what folks will do... sometimes they even take a legit error, and then try to make it an even bigger error. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Forum Dad
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I highly doubt anyone would waste time trying to make an "Error" counterfeit on a common Canadian small cent like this either IMO. I must strongly disagree. If I was going to experiment making fake error coins, common coins are exactly what I'd use. |
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Just want to make sure this coin is legit. It is not the first time a fake error in photos has turned out to be real, and vice versa. The best thing would be to examine this coin in hand. If you pay for the return shipping postage, I'll happily examine it for you and give you my opinion, as small cent errors are one of my specialties (Mike, and other error collectors here can also vouch for me). Send me a PM if you want me to look at it. This is a service I offer for free to collectors and dealers alike - for the benefit of the hobby. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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If I was going to experiment making fake error coins, common coins are exactly what I'd use. Bobby131313, I understand that completely, use whats easily available forsure, I just feel there is a lot more to this coin then foul play. Quote:
Don't underestimate what folks will do... sometimes they even take a legit error, and then try to make it an even bigger error. I can also agree to this, but you also know exactly how dies are made and if all the details on this coin are raised then that can only mean the person who made it, must have created some sort of incused obverse working die with the effigy flipped the wrong way in order to have the design show up on the coin backwards. chadcoins, Your coin would be in good hands if you sent it to SPP-Ottawa, ive sent and received coins from him recently without any issues so I can vouch for him an I'm sure others can also. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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Looks fake to me although I don't have the actual coin in hand to properly examine. The letters ETH appear to be incused backwards (hard to tell what is struck up and what is incused), which would be the effect if another coin was pressed into your coin. Additionally, the coin appears to be out of round and larger in diameter. The rim in extended area is still raised, which was the result of the original strike and being pushed outward from being squeezed by the coin pressed into yours.
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01/26/2021 9:47 pm
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Not a legit error, vise job, the backwards letters are not raised
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Posted 01/26/2021 09:41 am
