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Are Uncirculated P/ D Sets Considered As 'Business' Strikes?

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Are uncirculated P/D sets considered as 'business' strikes? Or are they slightly better in grade?
Not talking about the Mint Proof or Silver Mint Proof sets - just the Uncirculated P/D sets..
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Yes they are.
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They are still business strikes, but they are not the same as actual circulation strikes...

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/collec...uncirculated


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At the United States Mint, the term uncirculated refers to the special coining process used to make the coin, which gives it a brilliant finish. Uncirculated coins are manufactured using the same process as circulating coins, but with quality enhancements such as slightly higher coining force, early strikes from dies, special cleaning after stamping, and special packaging. Uncirculated coins may vary to some degree because of blemishes, toning, or slight imperfections.
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There was also a period of time from 2005-2010 where the mint struck the uncirculated set coins with a satin finish which was a little different than the business strikes.
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There was also a period of time from 2005-2010 where the mint struck the uncirculated set coins with a satin finish...
Worth the mention.



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...which was a little different than the business strikes.
Saying they were "a little different" could be considered an understatement.

The definitely stand out in my albums.
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Saying they were "a little different" could be considered an understatement.


Hey, they both had Lincoln on them!
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Ok that information is very interesting and good to know.

So, if I were to say that I have Mint uncirculated sets from 1947 to present, is not the same as having circulated business coins from the same dates.

Then I should also collect the same coins in 'uncirculated sets' from the circulated coins found in the wild to have a complete collection of coins - is that correct?
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This is news to me. I thought that specially minted coins were called specially minted coins and uncirculated coins were simply coins meant for circulation but were never put into circulation. I've noticed that the rolls of ATB Quarters I buy from the mint are very different in quality from the mint bags of the very same quarters. I was not aware that they actually are very different. Every ATB in rolls looks like a Gem Beautiful Uncirculated while only about 5 out of 100 in the bags approaches but does not meet that same quality. How long has this been going on, the difference between "mint strikes" and "business strikes"?
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Then I should also collect the same coins in 'uncirculated sets' from the circulated coins found in the wild to have a complete collection of coins - is that correct?
I would not. Other than the 2005-2010 satin coins, if you mixed them up you would not be able to tell them apart.


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I've noticed that the rolls of ATB Quarters I buy from the mint are very different in quality from the mint bags of the very same quarters.
You may have also noticed that the mint sells two different sets of ATB Quarters: uncirculated and circulating. The latter sets are created from coins pulled right from regular production.


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How long has this been going on, the difference between "mint strikes" and "business strikes"?
I will have to verify, but I think since the 1980s.
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I would not. Other than the 2005-2010 satin coins, if you mixed them up you would not be able to tell them apart.


Well for me, I don't think I'll mix up my uncirculated coin sets from my circulated sets. All Mint proof, and uncirculated coin sets are still living in their mint provided beds for now. My circulated coins are currently living in Whitman folders - soon to be moving into a new Albums (hopefully Dansco) as to match my soon to have 7070 set

Edit: I even catalog them in separate excel spreadsheets to keep better and easier track of them. each set/denomination has its own tab.
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Well for me, I don't think I'll mix up my uncirculated coin sets from my circulated sets.
I did say "if."

My point is that the best coins from circulation are going to be better than the worst coins from a mint set. There is an overlap which makes them technically the same. Unlike differentiating proof strikes from business strikes (uncirculated or circulating), where the methods are vastly different. The worst proof coin is still a proof coin.

I will add that it is a fair decision to collect the 2005-2010 satin finish separately from circulation strikes.

It is also a fair decision to build one set from circulation finds and another one from mint sets.
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