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Unknow Coin (Id: Modern Replica Of Manchurian Dynasty Dragon Charm)

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 Posted 12/18/2008  10:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add viola133 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
i have a lot of China coins and I know nothing about them and there value.
Can please someone help me with this coin?

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 Posted 12/18/2008  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd assume it is not a coin.
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 Posted 12/18/2008  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's some kind of token or souvenir. Just a gut thing from looking at lots of Asian art--the styling of the dragon doesn't look quite Chinese, but somewhere closer to Thailand or Myanmar.
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 Posted 01/25/2009  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No date, or monetary value on it . So
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 Posted 01/25/2009  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some type of Chinese token. One way to tell the difference between a Japanese and Chinese coin or token with the dragon design is by the number of toes on it's leg. A five toed dragon is Chinese and denotes spirtual power, while four toes which is also Chinese denotes earthly power of the emperor. While a three toed dragon is always Japanese.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sanfordpaul1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a coin that I would like to have identified. It has a lions head on the front of it with markings that I have never seen and on the back it has the number 5 and also markings that I have never seen and a picture of what looks like an soilder carrying a musket or some form of gun. please help me.
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Australia
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 Posted 01/28/2009  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
viola133: As others have said, it's not really a coin, but it does appear to be imitative of Chinese dollars from the early 1900's.

sanfordpaul1: Next time, if you start a new thread, rather than reply to an already existing thread, your question might attract more attention, and your answer won't get lost. As for what your coin is, from your description it sounds like an Ethiopian 5 cents. Does it look something like this?
Unknow-Coin-Id:-Modern-Replica-Of-Manchurian-Dynasty-Dragon-Charm
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 Posted 01/28/2009  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
quote: "One way to tell the difference between a Japanese and Chinese coin or token with the dragon design is by the number of toes on it's leg. A five toed dragon is Chinese and denotes spirtual power, while four toes which is also Chinese denotes earthly power of the emperor. While a three toed dragon is always Japanese."

- I'm only repeating what I read in a book on Chinese art:
Chinese dragons have five toes;
Korean dragons have four toes;
Japanese dragons have three toes; and
careless dragons have no toes.

Peter in Oz

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 Posted 02/18/2009  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valutarick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Manchurian dynasty dragon, period 1880-1912.

At his birthday it was accustomed that the emperor gave presents to the members of the palace guard of the forbidden city, now called Beying. The value of the coin was good for one meal with drinks for officers and one meal without drinks for common soldiers. Merchants who did provide for the food where appointed by the emperor, and at the following day, these appointed merchants must come tot the treasureholder (kind of Minister of Finance) who paid for the expenses by taking back the several coins intended as Gift from the Emperor.
Nevertheless, after the abdication of the last Emperor (Bertolucci movie), Chinese people start copying everything, including these type of non-numeral coins. Difficult to say if this is the genuine one, because it has no patina. Therefore I think this is an copy of the 1980-1990 period.
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