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I got excited at first but this one is completely fake. Found it in a bank roll tonight. Whoever did this one did one HECK of a job creating it and placing the reverse piece into the "shell" of the obverse and left just the slightest groove on the back (zoom in and you can see it). It only weighs 10.5 grams (dead give away) and just lays flat immediately, with no sound, when dropped on a granite countertop, no mention of a ring at all. I was very disappointed to say the least..... The pics are oriented correctly with the reverse being rotated as it looks when flipped straight over. Hope this helps anyone else that may come across a fake rotated die coin.   |
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It could just be a Magician's coin, not an attempt at a counterfeit error, but you have to wonder. If it IS a Magician's coin, I wonder if anything is inside.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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The only trick inside this coin was it getting me excited when I flipped it over to see the reverse rotated as much as it was...only to realize later it was fake....  Here's a good link I just pulled up for this example of a fake rotated-die coin. http://rotateddies.50webs.com/fake.htm |
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technically, it might not be fake, but rather made from two legit halves
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technically, it might not be fake, but rather made from two legit halves Hi Nick10, what do you mean by this? I wrote it off due to the weight and the groove around the rim. Thank you for your input and any further explanation and I would love to be wrong on this one...... Why someone would go to the trouble of doing this to a 1980 Half is what confused me. Edited by Scuba1
03/31/2021 11:38 pm
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Why someone would go to the trouble of doing this to a 1980 Half is what confused me. Probably trying to make a fake error, although why they'd fake a rotated reverse is beyond me. The $1 it costs in materials is a fine price to pay for an error coin, and probably gives much more realistic results than faking it outright. That said, I second the motion to look inside! |
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I very much doubt, given the weight, anyone is trying to fake a rotated die. Just a Magician's coin not put back on straight. These can be tough to open, but always fun to see what coin is on the other side of the reverse half. Pictured below are three examples. They are all flipped over as one normally would a US coin, and so easy to see that they rotate in any degree depending on how they are put back together. The flip-able reverse of the first coin is normal/British Penny, the second coin is normal/Mexican 20 centavos, and the third I was unable to open so remains with Kennedy showing and mystery coin underneath. Essentially the obverse half is hollowed out with a machining tool. A reverse half-coin is then carved down until it just fits snugly into the hollow, and then another partial coin is mated to the Kennedy reverse. So when put together one way it looks, heads and tails, like a normal half dollar, but then the magician flips the reverse and it turns into another coin (which they do not then flip over, but usually have lying on a table). Anyway, I like these trick coins and have a bunch of them.   |
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Thanks guys for the comments. My son and I tried to rotate the reverse of this coin and do everything we could to "open" it up but to no avail. Not sure what to do to open it up if it is a Magician's coin. The more you respond the more I get excited about having a " Magician's coin"..... lol. Never had or found one (but would have rather had a rotated-die...darn!!!) but this may be fun trying to open this one. |
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Usually, if it's going to open and some are just stuck, you hold it tightly by the edge and press on the obverse like a button and the reverse comes out. I've been able to open about 80% of the ones I've come across.
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Give it to Bats.  |
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Say, "Abracadabra?" "Watch me pull a Wabbit out of my hat... Presto?
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warming it will expand the gaps between the two pieces and let the two more easily rotate, just don't make it too hot to hold
if you search coin rolls, you'll find more of these, I've probably searched less than $1000 of halves and have found two examples
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Thanks for the replies. I normally search Lincoln's but had a few rolls of halves from the bank and found this one in the second roll. I can see that it wants to "pop" apart but it just hasn't yet. Actually it's pretty cool now that I have this. It's definitely hollow inside and Kennedy's face is sort of spongy. Good idea on heating it up a little bit, I'll give it a try.
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