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1983 P Jefferson Nickel Missing Letters In Monticello Error?

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 Posted 04/13/2021  03:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add electrabishi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have an 83 P missing the E in Monticello. Doesn't look like it was even minted on. Kinda looks like a V in its place. not sure what kind of damage could just remove a letter with no trace.

Anyway, its a pretty beat coin anyway but thought it was odd and now I see several posts with this year coin missing letters in the Monticello.


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electrabishi to CCF. Best to start your own thread, this is an old post. Also, going to need much better photos to really help you. Best not to post photos of the monitor screen. Your coin might be a Struck Through Grease. No added value though, sorry.
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Your reply was split into its own topic for the proper attention.

Reference topic: http://goccf.com/t/344961
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They area you are looking at are flattened. On a doubled die, the devices would be enlarged on the central areas of the whole word, not just an independent area on a couple of devices. That would be a coin contact issue. On a doubled die you would expect to see the affected area raised and widened:
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Not just on one isolated area.
Also your coins devices are normal sized, not enlarged. So when compared with a DDR and a normal rev, we would see the doubled die having larger devices, with spread in the centers of the devices:
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If this were Machine Doubling, we would expect to see more than one device affected which happen on this coin below:
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I refer this as pushed like snow, because the metal is moved and like moved snow, the metal has to go some place, and is pushed aside by the machine.

But with coin contact, just one little area on the coin was affected. The affected areas will be incuse by flattening the devices or fields or even the design. Not it is not a doubled die, it is just coin contact?

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 Posted 04/13/2021  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Struck Through Grease is a frequent cause of missing letters, so that's likely responsible for the missing E.
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It does not look Struck Through Grease to me. I agree with the coop especially with the smashed c and l.
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