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1937-S Lincoln Wheat Cent RPM

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I post this back in August 2020. Feels not so long ago. I'm testing what coop informed me of how to line up MM to see if it's a match or not.
Hope it's ok looking. Please let me know what I need to improve.
Thanks much for looking and comments.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks correct. Nice find.
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Coop. Would you say it's a match or not?
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How is that a match?
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Looking at the distance between the two, note that the digits are not the same size. So the larger/smaller digits tells me that size does matter. If the devices were the same size, then the distance would be correct. An exact match of the shape of the RPM also counts. Because they are the same shape, they are from the same die. Thus when I size the devices, I always make the width the same distance, so the devices will be the same size. Then I check also the vertical, because when images are taken at a strong angle, the height of the devices can be affected. When the digits are the same size horizontally and vertically with the digits, then I deal with mintmark location, last.
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Here I go again. Coop I need to find out for sure if when I check other MM. I get it when you said size matters. Which I see is true if you're looking at pictures side by side.
If a person looks at pictures separately.
Starting with Coppercoins first.
Top yellow line from top of 9 over past 3 the top of 3 is above the line.
Middle line from tip of 9 over to 3 it touches bottom tip of 3.
Bottom from bottom tip of 9 over past S the top of S is above the line.
Blue line touches both tips of 3 down through S.
Red line from tip of S travels up through 9.

Now if a person looks at my coin picture separately.
The yellow lines start at same place on 9 but hits 3 & S different.
Blue line touches bottom tip of 3 only and touches S different.
Red line from tip of S hits 9 different.
Wouldn't as long as you start lines from same place on each coin. It should end up in the same place no matter if one picture was larger than other.
Wow sorry for all that. Just want to get it right.
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Wouldn't as long as you start lines from same place on each coin. It should end up in the same place no matter if one picture was larger than other.


True unless the images are rotated, as it seems that your pictured is rotated slightly clockwise compared to the CC image. That's why it doesn't look to be lining up.

It's definitely RPM-001. There's only two for 1937-S and it's definitely not #2.
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Thanks Tanner. I agree it's a match. I see what you're saying. Looks like Coppercoins coin is not level. I just wanted to make sure if I'm doing it correctly.
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Alignment is also necessary. But when there is only one RPM that looks like that, I don't worry about alignment. It is when you have many RPMs that look similar. Then you have to weed them out. But I applaud your effort to want to get this right. Sometimes the angles are tilted at an angle and you have to make adjustments. Alignment/height/width of devices. I've had some images that no matter what I did, they were not able to be used, because they taken at an angle titled and coin tilted and was not able to fix the image. So best to have images that are taken in a flat surrounding, not tilted double like I mentioned before. (The example I mentioned, the devices on the image were taller at one side of the date than on the other end of the date. My software was not able to fix that) But full date images are best for me. When you have two digits it makes it hard to make the image horizontal.
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Thanks again coop. For more great information. I can see what you're saying about the problem working with less. And lol "size matters"
Most of Wexler he only show the MM. He does give markers to look for. Coppercoins and Variety Vista show the full date. VarietyVista I feel the better of the two. Coppercoins almost all looks on an angle. Coppercoins have better pictures of markers than his dates.
Lol. I think I'm getting the hang of it. Still always more to learn.
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