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Do You Think This Is A Legit TPG Grade?

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What do you think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...260334296133

Even for a weakly-struck series, that is an absolutely miserable-looking coin to be an XF-45

Re-slab? Fake slab? Odd for somebody with that much feedback at 100%
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12/31/2008 3:26 pm
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 Posted 12/31/2008  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS has bad days too?

Found this for ya while googling...

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 Posted 12/31/2008  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think what we're looking at here is a technically correct grade on an ugly coin. The adage ... buy the coin, not the holder definitely applies here.
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I can see that the coin doesn't show much *wear* in the photos, but I really thought that most grading standards were based on the level of detail visible, as well as the evidence of wear... With no feathers at all on the breast or right leg, the hair merging into the face, and even a good portion of the legend missing, I just can't see it getting much over an F-12. Just seems really odd to me.
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Maybe it looks better in hand, but that is the bugliest 45 Peace $1 I have ever seen.
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I found a struck-through-grease Hawaii-D Quarter that was so bad, it seriously looked (in general appearance) like an F-VF 1999 State Quarter pulled from circulation.

Yet it would have to be MS60 technically speaking, because it was in my roll that I bought at the Denver Mint, and it hadn't even left the Mint building until I took it home. You can't get any more "MS" than that!

I spent that 'cull', but maybe I should have sent it in to a TPGS, because it would have been a real test of their grading!

Agreed, this 1927-D looks like something out my dealer's bargain box of Peace dollars (in fact, I could find probably find a better-looking one in there!), but it could be light wear on a really weak strike. Something best determined with a 10× or 20×, not by low resolution photos of a slabbed coin.

Getting a really bad-looking, badly struck coin fresh from the presses, from the Mint itself, alters your perspective about what is (or can be) "MS". If my cull Hawaii Quarter circulated for a year down to XF, and was then sent to a TPGS, the reaction would be similar to what this coin received.
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