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 Posted 01/01/2009  8:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add newdavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is every Morgan been givin a designation? If so where else can one find them? Are they all on VAMworld?
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 Posted 01/01/2009  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, they're all given a designation. Yes, they're all (with more or less detail) on VAMworld. Another excellent place for VAM research is the Heritage Auctions Archive; their photos are superb, for comparing notes on attributed VAMs which they've sold.

No, they haven't all been found yet. New VAMs are being designated by Leroy Van Allen every day.
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 Posted 01/01/2009  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newdavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the quick response to the questions. I found yet another thing I love about coins. I don't think the budget will feel the same way tho.
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One more question please. I kinda thought this was a no brainer. Gonna ask anyway. Is it easier to tell which VAM on unc coins?
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Is it easier to tell which VAM on unc coins?


Most definitely - none of the (sometimes) obscure features which define the VAM have had a chance to be worn off yet. Now, point to remember - a " VAM" describes one specific die pair. These dies go through a process of wear and use; there are "early" and "late" die states of a given die pair, and sometimes these die states get their own VAM designation. For instance, if a "VAM-1" die pair happens to clash during use, creating a clashed version of the coins subsequently struck, a "VAM-1A" might be designated for the clashed verions. Then, when they catch the clashed die and polish out the clash, coins struck after that might be "VAM-1B."

The point is, it isn't always easy to attribute a specific VAM, because what you see might not be as strong, or as well-developed, as photos of existing examples.
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 Posted 01/01/2009  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newdavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I'm glad to have all you experts or more experienced collectors to help me on this journey. Sounds like it might get treacherous. Thank you for the answers
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Personally, I don't use the term "treacherous."

I use words like "frustrating" and "infuriating" and "hair-pulling" and stuff like that.
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All Morgans and Peace dollars are a VAM but not all of them have been discovered and cataloged yet because there are different VAM's being attributed still by Leroy Van Allen. The VAMer is always looking for that one undiscovered VAM so they can be the discoverer of it, just as a kind of "look what I can do" kind of thing in the VAM world. The VAMworld website has allot of the known VAMs on their site but not all of them are represented but its still a great resource to check out in the quest of looking for VAM's
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 Posted 01/26/2009  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can try https://www.ashmore.com. There is listings by date & photos.
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 Posted 03/08/2009  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ameadows to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can some on tell me what he VAMs mean> I am new to this collectging and have gotten my self hooked. I was left a collection and had thought about gettin rid of it because I knew nothing about it however with the research that I have done I think that I am now "officially" HOOKED!! LOL I am now wanting to fill spot that were in the collection and then there are those that I find fascinating! Anyways all help has been sooooo greatly appreciated beyond what words can describe!

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Oh is there a place here where you can buy/sell coins? :)
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the term VAM is taken from the names of the people that categorized the Morgan and Peace dollar varieties into numbers for each date and mint mark. Their names are Leroy Van Allen & George A Mallis. We use the term VAM when talking about Morgan and Peace dollars varieties, so when you hear the term that is what is being talked about
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