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1891 O VAM 1A3 For Thoughts

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here is one I plucked from the Bay
I think personally she looks about VF-20 maybe F-15
she has a few marks on her that may warrant a detail grade on a higher graded coin but not sure about this grade.
In hand she most certainly does not look cleaned. Camera light makes it look brighter I think.
The giant die break on the back is not post mint damage :)


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Very close to VF-20, agree a tight call.
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VF Details Cleaned
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i dont think its been cleaned , the lighting and my camera phone make the photos look bright but coin is a nice grey and looks like all my other F to VF Morgans
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Jason,

Look under the wings and tail feathers on reverse as there are cleaning marks were it has been cleaned. There are scratches under the right wing from cleaning. Under the words IN & TRUST there are cleaning marks.
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The seller's images suggest straight grade.
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On review, I think it's been cleaned as well.
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@Slider23 that is probably the lighting coin has no cleaning lines there or anywhere else. Lots of contact marks yes. Line under the tail feathers is a strong clashed E
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@Coinfrog what are you seeing that indicates it? It looks like all my other straight graded Morgans . Nice natural grey . No hairlines and no cleaning abrasions . Has not been dipped , polished or put in silver cleaner.
I think its just the lighting
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It just seems very light in color for a coin that worn. An instinctive call.
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@Coinfrog . thats the lighting for sure , taken by a big window at around 1 pm. Coin is darker for sure . Not saying it would not details but not from cleaning.
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Got it, thanks.
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This one came back VF-25
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Nice, I have been on the hunt for a nice 1a3 for a while.
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PCGS?
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Dave yep Vamworld group submission
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