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Hi guys. Hope everybody is off to a good year. I have a question about some nickels I bought. I bought 20 nickels with 20 different dates , instead I get 3-29's,3-34's,3-36's have 3 different mint marks. I asked the guy why I didn't get different years. He said the different MM makes them different years. He said ask any knowledgable coin collector and they should know this. Well I guess thats not me. I figure 20 different years means 20 different years. So does a MM make it a different year? thank you , Ken http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110327843521
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A year is a year, a MM is a MM. He should have stated that you will be receiving 20 different years and MM's. Not trying to defend the seller but, he is kind of covered because technically you did get 20 coins that are not the same date and mm. Now, according to you, you received 9 coins is this is correct Looks like he owes you 11 more.
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That's a tough call. Not because of the seller's description - I quite agree that his description was deceptive - but in terms of value received. The question you have to answer is, did you get value for your money? You *did* get 20 different coins, for less than a dollar each, and you obviously weren't shopping for Uncirculated stuff.

Speaking as an ebay seller, in an environment where we cannot do anything except sit back and take it if a buyer chooses to leave us poor feedback, I would ask that you carefully consider what is appropriate Feedback for this transaction.

Speaking as an ebay buyer, I'd leave Neutral Feedback for this transaction, stating "Differing dates does not mean differing mint marks." My reasoning is, you got 20 different coins, the price was reasonable, and they were (I assume) packed appropriately and shipped quickly.

That's just me, and I should state that I'm very leery of pulling the "Negative" trigger. In fact, in 10 years on ebay I've never done it.
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 Posted 01/03/2009  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add groganking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He should have been more precise in what he stated. Buffalo's are most frequently collected by mint mark and date although a more affordable set is to collect by date only. San Francisco and Denver coins, at least through 1929, are more expensive to acquire than their Philadelphia date counterparts.

If you received a 29-D in XF or better condition, you did all right as that can be a relatively expensive coin to find in higher grades.

UPDATE: Having now looked at the link, it appears you could have read the dates although the mint marks are not visible from the photo because it only shows the obverses. These are lower grade coins so you can ignore the previous paragraph. I doubt there was any intentional deception here and you received about the value you paid for. I would concur with SuperDave's thoughts on Feedback.
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You ask if a MM makes a different year but you said he advertised 20 different dates, not 20 different years. I agree a year is a year but if he advertised 20 different dates then I agree that a 1929 and a 1929S are two different dates to a coin collector.
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Speaking as an ebay buyer, I'd leave Neutral Feedback for this transaction

I guess he did send you 20. Okay. Then I would agree with SuperDave and do the above. I also agree take in the entire transaction and base your feedback and future biz with this seller on that
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If you are Profesional you collect by years and mintmarks, but if you are a biginner you start only by year, if not by types.

Error on the part of the buyer: First you should have seen the picture where you can see clearly coins of the same year.

Error also on part of the seller as he did not specify different years and mintmarks (date and year could mean the same thing) Not all buyers are professional or Advance collectors.

If you are not happy with the purchase communicate with the buyer, he gives 7 day money back.

As for leaving feedbacks don't be trigger happy. Communicate, as people make mistakes. I normally just don't leave feedback if I not happy.
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The seller should have said that he was selling 20 unique date and mint mark combinations. That's what I've always done. On the other hand, you might be better off in terms of value with what you received. He could have given you the "P" mint for every year between 1915 and 1937. That would have been 19 pretty common coins. Then he would have just had to decide whether to give you a 13-P, 14-P or a 38-D.
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 Posted 01/03/2009  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ken8400 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you guys. I did get my moneys worth. There atleast worth a dollar and some a little more. I guess I'm just upset that I didn't get 20 different years. I send them back I lose $4 , so I guess I'll just blow it off as he was dishonest and leave nothing for him.
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Now you will have to start collecting by year and mintmarks. Way to go.
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I bet next time you will send some emails to the seller and clarify exactly what you will be receiving. Glad to hear you got your moneys worth, though. Good luck with ebay in the future (and be careful)
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In the supersize pic,you can see 3 1937's right in a row...You gotta look closely at the pics before you buy...
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Ohhhh..! I think I GET it now! After looking closely at the seller's ad, I think that what he was trying to say was that you'd be getting 20 different Buffalo nickels and that they would all have dates on them. I think he was trying to make the distinction between "dated" and "dateless" nickels. (There are a LOT of dateless Buffalo nickels being sold out there!) So when he said "20 different dated nickels", he was simply saying they would have dates and that each nickel would be unique. Syntax is everything!
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 Posted 01/04/2009  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should have been "20 different nickles with dates" Because 1936, 1936D, 1936S are the same date (year) but different nickles (because of mintmarks).
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