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1949 Wheat Reverse Struck Thru Die Cap?

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 Posted 06/02/2021  10:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TippyCanoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I could use your help in verifying the reverse is struck thru a die cap. ty!
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 Posted 06/03/2021  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think it is a die cap issue. Indirect die transfer?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be my guess.
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 Posted 06/03/2021  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or a thinned planchet?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TippyCanoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this something I should hang on to? Is it common?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tippy, I would weigh it to rule out thin planchet at least. That would be worth savings.
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 Posted 06/03/2021  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TippyCanoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ty! I did weigh it at 3.17 grams.
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 Posted 06/03/2021  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TippyCanoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone care to explain indirect die transfer to me?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A a struck through die cap, the rim area is totally different than a normal cent:
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Note the rim, looks more like a saucer, rather that the normal rim?
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Also part of the opposite design is seen on the obverse.
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I'm not seeing that on your coin.
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It is more than a weakened design:
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The opposite side will look normal:
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Just not seeing this on your coin.
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CoopHome: What should I look for on a capped die strike?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TippyCanoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ty COOP! Do you have a link I can read up on Indirect Die Transfer?
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 Posted 06/03/2021  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well to me it is not that either. As the Progressive indirect die transfer is just a copy of the obverse ghost outline on the reverses:

http://www.error-ref.com/?s=progressive+indirect
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What does progressive indirect die transfer look like?
But I'm not seeing that on your coin either. It looks like to me that it could be either circulation wear, or a thinned planchet? Weight would tell me if the weight was so the issue, leaving the strike weak as there was not enough thickness of the planchet.

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Ok ty! Weight is 3.17 grams
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 Posted 06/03/2021  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. So it is not a weight issue. (There is a lot of grime around the devices, so it the coin is in the normal range) So I feel it much be coin wear that is at fault. Some would say it is a Struck Through Grease issue, but I have ruled that out as the deices are not wider than normal. But what ever it is, it doesn't add a premium to the coin. If it were a double die, then it would be more interesting. But it is not. Most times they are normal coins. Varieties are more interesting to me. But it is just a Wheat cent. Keep aside for that.
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