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1840-S Planters & Mechanics Bank South Carolina $10

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 Posted 06/18/2021  11:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dw171 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought a group of obsolete and national bank notes from an estate sale a few weeks ago and this is one of the notes. I am having trouble finding information about it. This is the only one I can find, https://currency.ha.com/itm/obsolet...ption-07151, but how do you tell if its a contemporary counterfeit or not.
1840-S-Planters-&-Mechanics-Bank-South-Carolina-$10
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 Posted 06/20/2021  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know enough about these to give you an educated answer. I've messaged a friend that I consider an expert on Obsoletes with a link to this thread and am awaiting his reply.
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 Posted 06/20/2021  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the bigger challenges for collectors of obsolete notes is the dearth of available resources. Haxby's 4-volume Standard Catalog is considered the "bible" for obsolete notes. However, it is out of print and even the CD copy will cost you $250. There are some helpful resources online, such as https://www.obsoletecurrency360.com/ (helps a bit with understanding rarity) and http://www.crutchwilliams.com/BogusCSA_RoTx.html (helps with known bogus notes). With that said, I haven't found anything online that would answer your specific question...short of searching for and comparing to known notes sold at Heritage...which it sounds like you are already trying to do.
Hopefully, someone with a copy of Haxby's catalog at home can help some more.
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Russell messaged be back with his opinion.

Hi Steve,

Yes, it looks like the contemporary counterfeit to me. Written portions closely match written portions of the counterfeit in Haxby. Overall engraving quality isn't as sharp as it should be, particularly in the medallion heads, central vignette and portrait at left and small vignette at bottom center. These should all be sharp and dark with clearly engraved individual tiny lines to create the shaded appearance, not grey and indistinct. That sharpness should be retained, even on a worn note, such as this.

This is still a pretty darn scarce counterfeit note with no genuine examples known (at least to Haxby in 1988). I'd guess that it's a rarity 5, with 10-24 known. Let's see what Austin Sheehan said in his South Carolina Currency reference. He says rarity 6, which he defines as 5-15 known. I'd defer to his expertise. Mr. Sheehan illustrates a proof in his book, plate "C", along with the counterfeit, A comparison of the side by side photos leaves no doubt that this is the counterfeit. This example is still probably worth $50-$100. Heritage got $164.50 for the linked Newman example in 2016, which is a somewhat nicer.

Bowers, in "Obsolete Paper Money, Volume 6", lists the same note as "URS-3", which is defined as 3-4 known. I suspect that this number is too low.

Hope that this helps.

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Thank you for your input and information. I would like to get the full set of Haxby's catalogs, but am waiting for a better price. Does anyone know what happened to any genuine examples? Like why are there only a few counterfeits left and no genuine examples?
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