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A Scandinavian Coin?

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 Posted 01/10/2009  6:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Any ideas about this coin? I can't find anything...

A-Scandinavian-Coin? A-Scandinavian-Coin?

Thanks for any help
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 Posted 01/10/2009  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be my first guess too with the "Ore" one one side.
Seeing the crown, I'd guess Sweden--although it might be some kind of token?
If a closer shot is possible, it would be nice to see the details.
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 Posted 01/11/2009  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Litotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweden is the only country to use "Ore" as early as 1700, so this is most probably swedish, but it is not circulation coinage. I have never seen this type before, as Kurt I would guess it is some kind of token.
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 Posted 01/11/2009  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DagonX, where do you get all those interesting pieces?
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 Posted 01/11/2009  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure that says Ore? And if it does, which: Øre, Öre, Ore.


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 Posted 01/11/2009  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS, DCH, I'll make better photos when coin (token?) come to me - I bought it few hours ago
DL20K, usually I'm buying coins on Allegro, sometimes when I have enough time and money I'm going to see what numismatic-shops in my city have in choice And biannual I'm going on Collector-exchange which is organize in my city
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 Posted 01/11/2009  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wcg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cant say that I add anything to the discussion, but I will say that is a neat little piece and an intriguing design.
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 Posted 01/21/2009  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I promised, here's better photo

A-Scandinavian-Coin?

The "coin" has 18mm diameter and it's definitely silver.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you get a hi-res closeup of the date? It looks odd, like it's been tooled, maybe scraped up from the surrounding metal.

It still doesn't look like 'Ore' to me, more like ene(one in several languages), ere, erc.

Right picture appears to be a very crude eagle holding an imperial orb, with H and V above, unreadable letters below near rim.

The whole thing looks to be from hand engraved dies(except the small letters near rim), no punches used.

Probably a token, but I think it's overstruck on something. It may also be someone's art project, hand engraved on an unknown host coin.
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Quote:
Are you sure that says Ore? And if it does, which: Øre, Öre, Ore.
My eyes are seeing the line through the "O" for Øre. There are a lot of alternative ways to write this letter, yet with the same meaning. As for hand-tooled, I would agree the die (or casting) is rather crude--I cannot tell which process made it. I have seen official strikes from this period to be just as crude, so perhaps it's a struck piece. The crudity (or perhaps simply an abstraction) as expressed in the reverse design could be interpreted a number of ways. I really doubt it's fish bones, but that comes to mind as well. Perhaps an insignia associated with "K V" . Given the numerous wars and most likely hard currency shortages during this time, I wouldn't be surprised if it were a bank token for 1 Ore, struck in Sweden, as Litotes suggests.

Just my best guess here--perhaps Bo or Litotes has a better idea?
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 Posted 02/19/2009  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's new photo:

A-Scandinavian-Coin?

Tomorrow I'll try to take few photos in high resolution
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02/19/2009 5:38 pm
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 Posted 02/20/2009  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best pics I've taken

A-Scandinavian-Coin?

A-Scandinavian-Coin?
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 Posted 03/01/2009  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No more interesting ideas about this coin/token?
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 Posted 03/13/2009  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asciibaron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is a Swedish coin, i'll have to dig up my book tonight.

-steve
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 Posted 03/14/2009  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DagonX to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice to hear it Can you upload a page from your book with this coin?
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03/16/2009 6:49 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2009  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asciibaron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, I struck out - it's not the coin I thought it was... it's most likely a token, and I don't have any token books that would have this in it. this is a good mystery. i'll have access to a token book that might have this next week at the Baltimore Whitman show.

-steve
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