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Not a plating bubble for sure. It looks like a clash.   |
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full coin pictures both sides would help for comparisons for a clash..
Edited by Dearborn
08/18/2021 9:58 pm
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Not seeing anything with your partial pics.
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This is the area Oldfordman is referencing. I do not think it's from a clash but possibly over polishing a clash. Coop mentioned this in a thread the other day and I can't find it.  -makecents-
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On the top edge of the shield, where you circled, it looks like a possible die chip to me. Sorry...... Not seeing anything else here except a shiny spot above the shield.
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If it were an area that was over polished, it would create an indent in the die, which would result in a raised area on the coin. Hopefully Coop will chime in on it. Just can't find the post, it made sense to me though.
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The "shiny spot" above the shield is a die event related to the die chip on the shield directly below it. The metal in that spot is clearly broken and fatigued so it is shifting into the incuse area that creates the shield. It has an opposite effect to a typical pre-die break depression, but that's usually what I call this as this does typically does progress into a die break.
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That is a common area for die chips. John1  |
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I could have said some of that above, but I was too lazy to have to get up and grab a shield cent to compare it to, if only the OP had posted up full size images of both sides, it would have been far easier.
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Guys, I'm very familiar with this area of the shield and how it tends to have issues, that generally end with cracks and chips. I had always wrote it off as a weak spot in the design, we see this in the memorial at the corners, the top of the head and forehead, for the shield obverse and the wheat leaves on the wheaties, just to name a few.
I thought and I could be wrong,(I am daily), that Coop had tied this area in with die clash events somehow but cannot find the post. Maybe he will chime in.
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I don't think that this coin is showing the results of a clashed die, but it is an area that's prone to die chips as noted above. It could be that the area in question on the die had broken, but the chip had not fallen away, leaving a small Die Subsidence. Here's a Photoshop of a Clash Overlay for the Sheild Cent.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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08/19/2021 08:29 am
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 Die subsidence was the term I was looking for. From error-ref: Quote: Die subsidence errors are often associated with cracking. The die cracks (conventional or bi-level) can skirt or penetrate the zone of subsidence. Other errors sometimes found in association with die subsidence errors include split dies, shattered dies, interior die breaks, retained interior die breaks, and Retained Cuds. http://www.error-ref.com/die-subsidence/ |
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Like the 73d die subsidence type of thing?
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Whenever I heard die subsidence I thought about the 1973-D cents as well. But know that I've read up on it more it seems die subsidence refers to any deformation event where metal has sunk into the die. They tend to be related to die cracks or breaks, which is unlike the 1973-D cents. On error-ref, the 1973-D cents have a completely different article than die subsidence. "Recurring die subsidence errors" have an unknown cause (according to error-ref at the least): http://www.error-ref.com/recurring-...dence-error/ |
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