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Pillar of the Community
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This 1/2 reale has me puzzled , is it a 56/55 or a 55/56 ? opinions are appreciated .    |
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Krause lists one overdate for this type 1856 over 55. KM# 370.9.
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Valued Member
United States
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In "A Guide Book to Mexican Coins" Buttrey and Hubbard list only one variety for the 1856 Mexico City 1/2 Real: 6 over 5, assayer GF.
The 1855 Mexico City 1/2 Real comes in two varieties: assayer GC and assayer GF, with the F over C.
So it looks like you have the 1856, 6 over 5.
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You beat me to it, Echizento!
There is no listed mintage for this coin, but these Mexican silver minors tend to have much lower mintages than comparable 8 Reales. The fact that the only known variety of this coin is the 6/5 overdate may indicate that only a single reverse die was used for the entire year's mintage.
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I don't know these coins, but I can see a 6/5. You found this unattributed? Nice coin!  |
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Hi guys Ya I bought the coin raw just like it is unattributed from an auction site other than ebay . what has me wondering about the date is that the 5 seems to be the higher relief and the 6 seems kinda flat to the field . It really looks more like a re worked die than a true overdate to me , so the guides are calling it an overdate ? |
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Now I am showing myself to be a newbie, Metalman.
Wasn't reworking a die one of the standard ways of making an overdate in the 19th century? What term should I be using instead?
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Buzzard
Im a newbie also especially with error coins of early mexican issues , but to me this looks like simple tooling of the die as opposed to it being punched into the die over the 5 to make the 6.
an overdate in alot of cases or at least in my experiance looking at them come close to completely obliterating the previous number like the over date on the chile un peso I posted earlier.
what I'm really hoping here is that an expert on errors will straighten me out on this because I really don't know if this was a standard way of making an overdate or not or if I'm even in the ball park with how I'm thinking about it .
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Valued Member
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Now I understand what you are getting at. On these early Real issues, you can often see the original date clearly; they are not subtle.
This coin looks like die-tooling, while most Real overdates were clearly punched. I suspect that the workers went with tooling as the most expedient way to turn a 5 into a 6.
The amount of variation on these early Mexican coins is mind-boggling. In the past two years I have discovered two unpublished overdates simply by going through local dealer's inventories.
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Thats interesting info Buzzard ! and exactly why I was wondering if this can technically be called an over date ?
I love the mexican coins and add to my collection when I can .
it will be cool when you get to 50 posts and put up a gallery I would love to see your collection !
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I blew up the date area for a pic on the gallery--might be interesting to see at this size.  |
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