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Having A Lot Of Trouble Telling Real From Counterfeits, Is This Real?

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I want to bid on it, but not sure, think this is real?
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 Posted 10/19/2021  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks real to me.
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Thank you, I need more practice. Do you (or anyone) know if there a website that compares real commemorative coins to counterfeits?
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Do you (or anyone) know if there a website that compares real commemorative coins to counterfeits?

I'm not aware of any site that reviews the entire classic series; I've seen a few sites that highlight one or two.

The American Numismatic Association (A N A) has made some of its published info on counterfeit coins, including US commemorative coins, available here: ANA Counterfeit Detection Books






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My gut instinct says real based on the wear pattern and the way the text is typeset. With that said, I have no expertise on that particular type of coin, so I don't know whether there were any early counterfeits made in the same era as the coin and don't have enough information to rule out a period-counterfeit...
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Your coin is probably around VG to F. Compare it to these two: https://coins.ha.com/itm/commemorat...ot=1&x=0&y=0 and https://coins.ha.com/itm/commemorat...ot=1&x=0&y=0
Yours looks authentic to me.
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Looks legitimate to me, a non-expert. I will say, as for eye appeal, the low grade is offset by the nice circulation cameo.
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thank you everyone!
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Low Ball Collectors would possibly consider these a good circulation cameo.
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Appearance on screen is not everything.
If in any doubt, XRF and comparative ping tone tests would help to confirm, either way.
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Irresistible for the grade - a coin I'd very much like to own.
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No reason to think is fake.
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Looks like it was a pocket piece for a number of years! Nice coin for the grade.
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I see no obvious signs that this is not a genuine example. I do enjoy the circulation cameo look.
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While most (if not all) replies believe it is probably real (and they are probably right), no one is saying for certain that it truly is genuine. As such, consider what I and many others do, knowing there are fakes around, and as we often read on this forum, they're getting better all the time. Rather than relying on the honest opinions of people from this forum, I rely on the true experts at PCGS and NGC. Not only will they provide you their professional opinion of the grade, they will guarantee the authenticity of every coin they put in a holder!

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Yes TPG will verify genuine/fake. But I've seen coins worth $50 and less graded/slabbed that just aren't worth sending in IMO. The cost of grading/slabbing is about as much or more than the coin is worth. I especially see this in common ancient late Roman bronze coins. A person can also go to local coin store or coin shows and ask dealers opinions. When buying/bidding online I prefer sellers who allow returns in case I'm unsure about authenticity.
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