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Weak Die Or Post Mint Damage?

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filled die...struck through a heavy layer of grease with some debris in the grease.
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A keeper! This type of error is weaker or strong than your coin. The more grease the better.
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What a beautiful fill.

Question: Are the northeast-southwest striations part of the planchet? They seem to be embedded in the fill, too.

Brefos77, it's probably not something to carry a huge premium to a "strict" collector, but would have great interest to the collector of errors and oddities. I'm no Lincoln guy, but I'd pay a premium for such a complete, striking Grease Fill.

Should this one be authenticated, in a slab?
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I'd like to, but I can't afford to at the moment. In fact, I have several coins that need slabbing.
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Some examples on ebay get close to $10 when a real collector of errors or a newbie thinks that is neat. I've bought a few interesting ones. But slabbed? Why spend Big buck to prove it is a strike through (grease) error.
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But slabbed? Why spend Big buck to prove it is a strike through (grease) error.


That's the reason for my question about the striations. I am every bit the "newbie" you just referred to, and my first impression from those striations is that it could very likely be post-mint damage. Obviously, paying to slab this coin is a bit ludicrous, except as a vehicle for conclusive attribution.

It's not worth it to you, coop, because your experience allows you to see it clearly the first time. To me, not so much.
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Super Dave: I've seen those light marks on the planchets before. I think they are rolling marks left on the stock. You can see them on coins struck from the same die and with the same material. The angles are different so it has to be these rolling marks that don't get removed from the striking purpose. Here is an example of two coins from the OBW roll.
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You can see the same light line in different directions. The marker is a die scratch which you can see on both images. When the die is filled with grease, these lines are less affected like on your coin. So it's not damage. It just the grease preventing the dies from forming/removing the rolling marks and its not damage. I like these and save them when I find them mainly for educational purposes. It always make me take a second look.
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Another thing I try to do is take the coins to a major show if you have a chance to go to one. The TPG's usually have tables at the major shows and will give a free opinion on coins. After getting the opinion you can decide if the coin is worth submitting for the slab. Just don't show up with a box of coins. They do have a limit. But I have found this very helpful.
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