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Error Identification Help: 1893 CC Morgan Dollar

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Hi I am hopeful some one can help me with this odd obverse error. If you review the left side under the e in e pluribus you can see a reversed 189 date at least 4 times there is a mark by the lower star when this date reversing stops there is a very clear mark below the chin almost looks like an upside down cotton boll. This is a 1893 cc coin. The reverse has a break in the cc almost looks like a struck through on the mint mark I can provide the reverse picture as well. But stumped how to classify the error on the front or obverse. Any help greatly appreciated.

Sorry I'm new and may have posted a duplicate question in the wrong forum.

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The reversed 189 is from storage in a folder of some sort that had dates printed on the facing page.
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Interesting. That might be. I didn't consider that.
There are some other misses on this coin like the below chin area circled. That area is definitely not a transfer. Also do you agree this 1893 cc mint mark seems to be struck through something?
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Also do you agree this 1893 cc mint mark seems to be struck through something?


My initial thought is a circulation hit but an image that's less blurry would help identify what's going on.
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It is tough to see anything from the photos. Can you provide clear, full obverse and reverse photos?
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Is there a good way to post the pictures? When I take them from my phone it says they are to large to upload thus I've been giving these pictures which aren't terrific due to some size limitations
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I don't think it's a circulation chip here a good one c is missing rear and filled in front.
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The weight is about 25.7 g but it is heavily worn approximately ag to g and a sigma metalytics set for pre 1900 is detected dead on for metal contents same as graded coins for the same year and mint.
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I don't see anything that could have happened during the striking of the coin that would cause an error.
The reverse 18's are neither raised or contuse and the CC has taken a hit moving the metal over.
Whatever has happened, happened after the coin was struck so it is some sort of PMD
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The latest image looks like the coin is splattered with welding slag?
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Just to close the loop. I didn't believe this was a repair nor slag. I sent it off to NGC a while ago it came back g6. So they don't seem to believe it's an alteration or other. Thanks for the input and thoughts though.
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