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1904-S 50c Barber Half Dollar

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$238. Apparently this retails for $1,140 in VF20. Thoughts? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Obverse F12, reverse F15, net, could go either way.
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the overall sharpness of the coin when looking at it as a whole it could hit VF20. I would say conservatively F15
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I'm at F-15 as well. I could not buy from these pics.
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VG-10 ++ Only because of very weak LIBERTY .
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VG-10 ++ Only because of very weak LIBERTY .

LOL. I was waiting for the first customer to call this VG. You guys certainly don't disappoint.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I'll wait for your in hand images.
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Barbers need to be graded looking at the whole coin. Die wear, strike weakness, and circulation all play in the appearance. This date is a bearcat to find with nice appearance and no obvious problems.

The obverse shows too much detail in the top leaves, ear, eye, lips, ribbon, and hair to be VG. The bottom leaves are visible, which doesn't happen on VG coins. On balance, the obverse looks F-12.

The reverse has the same weakness as the obverse. If LIBERTY is weak, the eagle's tail feathers will be weak. The central and lower feathers on both wings are more consistent with F-15, but the horizontals and lower verticals of the shield, neck feathers, and talons are more consistent with F-12. The rims and denticles are much sharper than I would expect for F-12. On balance, the reverse is right on the F-12/F-15 line.

I'm at solid F-12. Unless the in-hand inspection shows something that isn't obvious in the pics, at a VG-10 price, this one's a no-brainer.
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F-12 for me.

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Why do I need a greysheet?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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