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Canadian 1980 Thin Penny Underweight

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 Posted 12/17/2021  11:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Retrochild to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone! I'm new here and can use a little help. This penny has full strike details and full rims. But with the weight of 2.19 and should be 2.8. I have searched all errors pertaining to this year coin and not one that shows the underweight of this coin. I have a coin collector friend who search pretty much every avenue he had by checking who we may have done contract work for with this type planchet and he came up with the 5 kurus from Turkey but they have their own mint., so any ideas ? Should I spend the money to send it to PCGS?
Thanks in advance!

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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinman91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Somethings definitely off with the weight being that dramatically different. The first thing I notice is the granulated surface it has on the reverse. It almost looks counterfeit to me.. I'm curious what off metal strike is possible if any?
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if it's an error or an acid soaked coin. I think to know if it's an off planchette you would need an XRF done.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Retrochild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is dentical as any other zinc Canadian penny, in every aspect only thin. It's not grainy but may appear that way coming from my camera.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canad didn't use zinc planchettes for Canadian coins in the 80/81 they were 98% copper. It seems smaller then the other cent in diameter that you posted, is that correct?
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. My first thought was acid damage.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the diameter might be slightly smaller, if it is,
I would lean towards an acid etched cent.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm leaning towards acid as well.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coca-Cola coin
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/17/2021  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


The RCM didnt mint any coins in 1980 that match your coin's weight, dimensions or composition

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 Posted 12/17/2021  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Retrochild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be an acid wash, and I can understand the copper coating being ruined forever but can you explain the shrinking of the density? Because the coin in diameter is exact. Did they leave it in the acid for a year? I did not do this to the coin my mother passed and I found this in her little collection. I'm sure she found it to be strange as well so she kept it. Like I said I'm new to this, 3 months actually so if my questions are stupid I apologize but still have this one question. But thanks in advance as I will take all of your advice and learn from it.
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 Posted 12/18/2021  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rim will be eaten more quickly by acid than the inner section. The inner section has been compressed with thousands of pounds of pressure by the strike, while the rim is hardly compressed at all.
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 Posted 12/18/2021  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From everything that I've read and followed on these things on sites for 20 years, the acid eats away slowly evenly, over, under, and through the coin. I've done these with coca-cola in Chemistry classes back in school days. It makes no difference, the edge or the monarch's head.
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 Posted 12/19/2021  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Retrochild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. Here is the thoughts about the coin from my collector friend: He said he does not agree with the acid wash. He said when the copper is struck by the dies, the copper material flows into the depressions and reliefs and causes the material to have a change in structure.kinda like stretch marks on skin when we gain and lose weight .our skin is still in place . but it has a little different makeup or structure. With that being said, if the coin was soaked in acid some areas of the coin would be disintegrated or eaten away due to the copper material reacting differently to some places of the coin. Also more of the high relief details would be disinterested more from acid. He still feels the strike details are a bit light due to the planchet being thinner than the normal planchet, and the dies were not able to do a full strike. Thoughts?
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 Posted 12/19/2021  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonielewy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was cast, not struck.
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