Doubled Die Or Mechanical Doubling - 1912 China Empire Dollar

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leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 10:58 pm As shown here is 1912 China Empire XuanTong Year 3 dollar, doublings present on letter ONE DOLLAR. Is this real doubled die or Machine Doubling? Thanks in advance for your opinion. Edited by leonardpusher 01/27/2022 11:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4395 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 11:23 pm Real doubled die imo. Cool find! Report this Post to the Staff
leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 12:26 am Thanks Tanman but I honestly think it is Machine Doubling. Lets see others opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4395 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 1:03 pm Well that might be a first, someone disagreeing with me calling their coin a doubled die. I say doubled die because of how the doubling fades away as it gets closer to the rim. Plus you can see doubling on the finer, lower-relief details like the scales and the clouds. Both of those characteristics I would not expect from typical Machine Doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 9:54 pm Sorry for being the first person...I really hope it is doubled die. As I mentioned in another post, I hypothesized that we should find two more world (China) coins with identical doubled die. I did find several this coins, they would prove my hypothesis if it is real doubled die. Report this Post to the Staff
leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 10:17 pm The doublings of this coin likely occurred during the die struck on the planchet? It is tough call, the coin presents flat doublings to me. Another reason that I have doubt on this doubling is a sale listing, see below picture. The listing says it is PCGS designated doubled die, however it can not be found by PCGS Cert#. Report this Post to the Staff
That Coin Dude Pillar of the Community United States 1427 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 02:01 am This is a genuine Doubled die Report this Post to the Staff
JDRMCB Pillar of the Community United States 615 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 09:36 am I found a TDO write up that mentions a DDO for the same year but it's a ghost!! I can't find info or pic on it anywhere..all PCGS links to it are broken. https://www.PCGS.com/news/PCGS-reco...se-varieties Report this Post to the Staff
leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 01/29/2022 9:07 pm Thanks ThatCoinDud and JDRMCB for your opinion. I leant many from your explanation, thank you again Tanman! Report this Post to the Staff
leonardpusher Valued Member United States 160 Posts	Posted 12/10/2022 2:39 pm Hi I found another DDO of this coin, I can see split serifs. What is your thought, Tanman and other friends? Report this Post to the Staff
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