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Regarding the sms kennedy , they add markers like the white hanging piece on the four and the line running from the second bar of the "of" that runs through the Amweica and down past the eagle wing.I have the second marker exactly but my 1964 was graded a regular strike. How can I have the exact marker on my coin when the so-called original supposedly ran less than 2 dozen coins? In fact one Kennedy was graded an SMS without the white hanging piece. What are the graders really looking at?
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. Please use the search box, upper left of page for lots of info on this subject.
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fairly certain they are looking at the provenance of the known population of 1964 SMS Kennedy half dollars which is 12 specimens all of which are accounted for and graded PCGS all came from dealer Lester Merkin who claimed he got it all at the mint director Eva Adams estate sale.

in fact, they are so few and the grading company so confident in identifying them, if one were to be spent or stolen, and turn up to be graded they would know which one it is of the 12.
it's more than a single marker or two markers, they also have to be strongly struck and satin finish and individual identifiers beyond that for each piece.

They never got out into circulation, they were trial pieces for the SMS coins for the following year and all kept by the mint director and bought by Lester Merkin at the estate sale. Chance of finding one is nil. The chance of buying one, much better if it could be afforded they start around $90K at auction when they come up. I wish I would have paid attention better and bought one in 2006-2009 when they were, relatively speaking, cheap still.
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In fact they are 3 majors markers and 2 others minors. PCGS certify only 12 but is believe to be a few more dozens of sets around, and all will have some connection with the Mint personnel of that time. I never find exact how many Merkin bayed?
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The 1964 SMS half must hold the record for the ratio of posts (high) to find probability (near zero). What is the origin of this illogical fascination? youtube?
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Unless related to either Mint Director (at the Time ) Adams or
Coin Dealer Lester Merkin , don't bother wasting time on this
Topic . None out there folks except the twelve already known .
This topic is out there with all the 1804 Silver Dollars people find from
PawPaws banking experience or the like , and the amazing finds
of Canada 1936 Dot Cents and 10 Cents .
Just is not going to happen .
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I think the fascination come more from E-Bay and Etsy where they permit to announce fake SMS sets. I drop out 25 $ to see what are those sets. All are normal some MS and proofs at the bottom quality. You has more chances to win the lottery then find those coins.
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The 1964 SMS half must hold the record for the ratio of posts (high) to find probability (near zero). What is the origin of this illogical fascination?

I don't know about that. I think it is the 1982-D copper small date that has more posts to find probability than the '64 SMS half.
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Flow chart for answering is my 1964 Lincoln Cent an SMS:

[Is My 1964 Lincoln Cent an SMS?] -> [NO]
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