Jbuck, thank you for the welcoming message!
I have discussed what the coin could possibly be with some friends of mine (none of them a coin expert, so just our logical considerations).
Based on the measurements and tests listed in the top post, the coin seems to have a correct weight, overall dimensions and chemical composition, but the quality of at least the blank seems poor. So the possible choices we could come up with are:
1. An original. Is it possible, that Bolivian mint at the time cared about the weight and composition, but otherwise allowed the quality of the blanks to vary?
2. A circulating counterfeit. Unlikely, little sense to make it of a correct alloy with a correct weight.
3. A relatively old counterfeit produced by a foreign entity out of convenience for use in the international trade. Is any country or private company known to have imitated Bolivian 8R pieces like US did to their Mexican analogs?
4. A relatively modern numismatic fake. Not sure why to undertake the effort to imitate the alloy and weight correctly, but miss the quality issues which affect the looks of a product and will be the first thing to alert a potential buyer?
Will greatly appreciate if any of the forum's subject matter experts reviews my findings and considerations and shares their own educated opinion.
I'll not bump this topic anymore, not to bother the readers with it if it happens to be of a little interest for them :)
P.S. After extensively reading this forum and other materials, I'm inclined to conclude that mine is an original piece. No one seems to have cared to counterfeit Potosi in silver with the correct weight and composition in the old times, and probably no one will bother to fake it in good silver now. So high chances it is an original made on a worn screw press with somewhat tilted dies of a blank of a mediocre quality, not much against Potosi traditions. Washing the coin in acetone to remove the green PVC stain and putting it to the album with an easy heart.
I have discussed what the coin could possibly be with some friends of mine (none of them a coin expert, so just our logical considerations).
Based on the measurements and tests listed in the top post, the coin seems to have a correct weight, overall dimensions and chemical composition, but the quality of at least the blank seems poor. So the possible choices we could come up with are:
1. An original. Is it possible, that Bolivian mint at the time cared about the weight and composition, but otherwise allowed the quality of the blanks to vary?
2. A circulating counterfeit. Unlikely, little sense to make it of a correct alloy with a correct weight.
3. A relatively old counterfeit produced by a foreign entity out of convenience for use in the international trade. Is any country or private company known to have imitated Bolivian 8R pieces like US did to their Mexican analogs?
4. A relatively modern numismatic fake. Not sure why to undertake the effort to imitate the alloy and weight correctly, but miss the quality issues which affect the looks of a product and will be the first thing to alert a potential buyer?
Will greatly appreciate if any of the forum's subject matter experts reviews my findings and considerations and shares their own educated opinion.
I'll not bump this topic anymore, not to bother the readers with it if it happens to be of a little interest for them :)
P.S. After extensively reading this forum and other materials, I'm inclined to conclude that mine is an original piece. No one seems to have cared to counterfeit Potosi in silver with the correct weight and composition in the old times, and probably no one will bother to fake it in good silver now. So high chances it is an original made on a worn screw press with somewhat tilted dies of a blank of a mediocre quality, not much against Potosi traditions. Washing the coin in acetone to remove the green PVC stain and putting it to the album with an easy heart.
Edited by aliquis
02/05/2022 07:18 am
02/05/2022 07:18 am




























