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Where Did These Ebay Sellers Learn To Grade?

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 Posted 02/04/2009  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ebay used to have a rule about the seller listing a grade taht wasn't a TGP grade. If you did, they would remove the listing.

You cannot list a numeric grade in the title unless it is certified by one of five TPGs. You can list a grade in the body or use adjective terms in the title(uncirculated, fine, good, etc) though.
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I just purchased a 1879 Morgan off of ebay. The coin photos were beautiful, I graded AU - MS. When the coin came it wasn't the coin pictured & graded F -VF.


Give the buyer a little time to make it right; if they refuse, file an Item Not as Described dispute with PayPal.

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I only buy from the sellers who post pictures good enough to blow up and examine for your self. Truly, it's the only way to protect from the overeager over graders!
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I just bought 5 Morgans from a seller that described them all as Mint State (lousy pictures so I contacted him prior to bidding and got his reassurance of the conditions of the coins). I got them today and they are nowhere close to MS(I also didn't pay mint state price for them either!). I have emailed him about this discrepancy and I am awaiting his reply. I'll let you all know the outcome...
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 Posted 02/05/2009  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add phdezra to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best way to avoid problems is to only buy from Sellers you know and trust (or receive a recommendation ).
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 Posted 02/07/2009  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cuzzx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grading is not my problem , when a seller says RARE, that gets my goat.
First thing I do is run a search to see how may are listed then email the seller and question the RARE thing. What they just about always say is ,
" THERE RARE in MY AREA ".
I respond by saying your on ebay not your area.
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 Posted 02/07/2009  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny pincher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you already have an advantage over most people if you can tell the difference between VF and AU. There a lot of people that go by the description and will pay more than they are worth and I feel sorry for them but personally think we should all learn this lesson one way or another.

To me, I think you already know everything that has been said and that this is just a quick way to rant about your experience and educate others as well. Now the thing to do is take that knowledge and use it against others that do not know. I try to buy some coins from people that do not specialise in them because they just want a couple of bucks and have no idea what they have.

Also try to buy groups of coins as well. If there is only one coin in a group of 10, it may still be worth buying just to get it. For example, about a year ago I bought a group of 4 large cents that were all listed in low condition. After looking at the pictures I could tell that one of them had no description and instead of being a G4+ like the others it actually was VF20-30. I ended up getting the set for about $12 shipped and had 3 other coins to use as trade.
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Having watched coins on ebay for years now I would agree with Ken when he said he feels many bidders get sucked in to the sellers description rather than look closely at the picture and attempt to grade it.
Fuzzy out of focus pictures are usually the mark of a bs merchant , look at other items for sale and youll often see a sellers photograpgy skills is fine until it comes to a simple coin , theres a reason for that usually.
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I think 10% use "Photograde" and the other 90% use "Coin Grading for Dummies"!
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