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  I already know the grade so educate me on wheel marks? I looked at coin with loupe from every angle I could think of under a 100 watt lamp looking for some evidence of anything that resembled something thru a counting machine. All I read is concentrated hairline marks thru the high points.. I will continue to make the mistake until I am able to see what to look for? Any help? I did see pictures somewhere but couldn't find that evidence on this coin?
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Sometimes a wheel mark can show up as polished area on the coin, it does not have to be hairlines.
Sometimes you have to take the coin in hand and move it around under a single light source.
By any chance was it grade by PCGS
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Yes It was graded by PCGS. I have two other 1952-d Lincolns but of course I am gun shy because they all came from the same roll
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I have no idea what a "wheel mark" is.  |
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Edited by BadThad
03/13/2022 12:39 am
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If you move round your coins you have to see an light reflection going like an bicycle tire go. the hairlines in general show struck on new dies, and do not confound with re-polish die.
In general white metal coins show better this effect. On cooper in general the proof and proof like.
Damage your coin has a little bit to many manipulation marks, if not was an supper desirable coin.
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03/13/2022 01:09 am
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Who graded it? What is a wheel mark? Where on the coin is it? John1  |
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Who graded it?
What is a wheel mark?
Where on the coin is it?
John1 Hey John1, I can only answer the first question, PCGS. Before I could see the whole coin magnified, I thought it was a fairly good coin. What you see is the coin magnified 20 or 30 times. Marks appear enormous at this setting. I still think it's pretty good. Maybe not ms-67 but maybe a 66+. The hit on the reverse on the Letter N is half the thickness of one strand of my hair and only visible at that angle. Never heard about wheel marks until three out of 8 from the 50's got bagged by PCGS. That's a high percentage since they were all different years. All the research I did after receiving these seem to indicate they could occur mostly on the high points. Maybe at an angle of 22 degrees 47 minutes heading North/northeast at an angle with the sun of 14 degrees I might find it. I have yet to do so. Seems like the TPG would not have worried about that if he was going to grade a ms-66 (not much value in that). My curiosity will get the best of me and I will resubmit. Small price for me to pay to give me more confidence in the TPG's. Everything I have read indicates it's much easier to detect on silver. I am paying a price for my education, mistakes I hope not to repeat. |
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I suspect if PCGS called it, you'll get the same result if you resubmit it. I think there are faint hairlines running vertically on Lincoln's head. You can barely see them if you enlarge your photo, and they might show up better if you use a much lower angle light source from the right side.
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I bet it if you submitted it it NGC, you would not get that designation.
From what I have read, it is only PCGS that is a stickler for wheel marks.
If you are going to resubmit it anyway, remove it from the holder and try a different grader.
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03/13/2022 12:08 pm
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suspect if PCGS called it, you'll get the same result if you resubmit it. I think there are faint hairlines running vertically on Lincoln's head. You can barely see them if you enlarge your photo, and they might show up better if you use a much lower angle light source from the right side. I am sure you are right, It's shouldn't be that hard for a person to find them. I googled every wheel mark picture I could find for three days. I am not experienced but not a dummy either. If they affect the appearance of the coin we should be able to find them after two hours of looking. I put the coin microscope to over 100 pwr magnification and saw no metal disturbance. I might be looking in the wrong places ( that's a possibility ) I have only looked on the high points of the coin. Edited by grospoisson
03/13/2022 8:48 pm
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I bet it if you submitted it it NGC, you would not get that designation.
From what I have read, it is only PCGS that is a stickler for wheel marks.
If you are going to resubmit it anyway, remove it from the holder and try a different grader. Sage advice. |
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