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1979 25 Cent - Anyone Have A Guess On This Planchet Identity?

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Anyone care to take a guess at what this planchet could be? Non-magnetic (maybe will test with Sigma)? Weighs 5.9 grams, and seems to have some sort of toning - I almost want to crack it out to check the edge out, because it looks like the reeding is dull and rounded - Anyone know which foreign coins were minted at RCM between 1978-1980? Thoughts are appreciated!
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http://www.cnpi.ca/for/foreign.html
You'll likely find more than one to fit the bill which is why PCGS didn't attribute it.
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You need an XRF to identify the coins composition, or you are just guessing away or take the TPG easy way out by saying a foreign planchet
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There are ranges of tolerances for the weights struck by the RCM. I would say it is either on a Barbados 25c Cu-Ni host planchet or a New Zealand 10c Cu-Ni host planchet. Both were struck by the RCM in 1979.


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You'll likely find more than one to fit the bill which is why PCGS didn't attribute it.


That is a CCCS holder, and generally, no TPG grader will attribute these off-metal errors with any degree of accuracy. You (the error collector) has to do the homework on these, which is often why I crack out every one I acquire, so I can weigh it, XRF it and then send it back with proper attribution.
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Note to self.
Quit posting from the pub.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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I love posts from the pub!! Several years ago, I earned a nice month-long ban from another coin forum after a drunken rage post .
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The only way you will ever know, is to buy the coin. Dave Hunt (BC Coin Mart is selling this coin): https://www.ebay.ca/itm/165393592102
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Well, one day I'd like to be in the ranks of Dave Hunt, maybe one day. However it's not listed by BC Coin Mart, this is one of mine. I just didn't want to connect the dots because of the forum rules and me being new here.

I genuinely want to know about the coin, not trying to advertise (that's why I blanked the price too). But appreciate the link/help!
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Honestly, the only way you will know, is to crack the slab, accurately weigh it, and test it with an XRF. Then there is the added cost of getting it reholdered.

Sometimes it is worth it, sometimes it is not.
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What do you expect the value of this error coin ?
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25s on Barbados and New Zealand planchets are not overly rare. If it was mint state (MS-62-ish), I'd put a value of $450 on it. In that grade, I would probably list it at $300.

Mint state 1982 Constitution nickel dollars on New Zealand 10c pieces typically sell for $1000 to $1200, so that is a good upper ceiling for estimating value. I would think the most valuable off metal struck on either Barbados or New Zealand Cu-Ni host planchets would be finding a Canadian 50c struck on a 10c or 25c host. 50c errors are generally scarcer and more highly sought after.
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I totally agree with all the reasons mentioned about grade and value, there is really no upside in spending more on this coin to find the foreign planchet other than knowledge, but good luck
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