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chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/02/2009 7:22 pm It finally arrived. I grade it F15. But, I don't if it is large letters or not. Any help would be great. Image: P1000386.jpg 93.93 KB Image: P1000387.jpg 95.71 KB Image: P1000388.jpg 98.11 KB Image: P1000389.jpg 92.64 KB Image: P1000390.jpg 97.76 KB Image: P1000391.jpg 95.26 KB Report this Post to the Staff

chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/02/2009 7:23 pm What is the weight ? Report this Post to the Staff
ron6788 Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 02:08 am Hi. It looks to me like you have small lettering. I'm mainly looking at the space left to the motto. It also appears you have a large 0 type in the date. You can tell because the 0 is slightly higher than the other numbers. I would grade your coin VF/XF myself. One thing you might want to check. In 1830, a new edge design was used on some coins. The regular inscriptions had a * between the words, the new designs had grooves, I guess like // or \\, between the words. Can you take pics of the edge? Ron large letters: small letters: Report this Post to the Staff
chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 05:13 am Image: P1000396.jpg 99.71 KB Image: P1000397.jpg 99.53 KB Image: P1000398.jpg 98.92 KB Image: P1000399.jpg 99.73 KB Image: P1000400.jpg 97.54 KB Image: P1000402.jpg 97.29 KB Report this Post to the Staff
chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 05:19 am Ron, first thank you for your expertise . I was really thrilled when I saw your opinion on grade, especially when I picked this up for less than the cost of an F12, according to 2009 Red Book. Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 11:13 am The obverse looks very strange, like the surface is pitted and porous from environmental damage. It also looks like part of third star from the top left is missing With that said, the reverse looks much better. Report this Post to the Staff
wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 12:02 pm to CCF and nice pick up XF to me! Report this Post to the Staff
johnny54321 Rest in Peace United States 4849 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 12:07 pm WAY better than F-15 details. Closer to XF-details with possible corrosion. Report this Post to the Staff
chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 2:39 pm That what I thought too from the pictures on ebay. But,This definitely isn't corroded. Report this Post to the Staff
ron6788 Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 11:13 pm Hi, Chris- You're welcome. I do love bust halves. You took great pics of your new coin's edge. It's not the rarer variety but the lettering is perfect. The regular 1830 edge has a star after the R in dollar like you showed in the first pic. If you could now take some clear pic of the obv we could join in the fun of trying to ascribe your coin. From your original pic it looks like there's some issue at 11 0'clock, maybe a die lump, and there seems to be possible pitting on the breast, and there does seem to be overall porosity. Of course, the light or shadows can make a lot of things seem to be there that aren't. Ron Report this Post to the Staff
chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/04/2009 07:35 am Hello Ron, Here are the pictures that you requeated. Image: P1000419.jpg 85.8 KB Image: P1000420.jpg 101.18 KB Image: P1000422.jpg 98.56 KB Image: P1000423.jpg 96.16 KB Image: P1000424.jpg 99.15 KB Image: P1000426.jpg 97.13 KB Image: P1000427.jpg 96.85 KB Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 02/05/2009 11:37 am It definitely isn't the large letter variety which would be O-114 (I haven't tried to attribute the coin, just checked to see if it was the Large letter) O-114 has the right edges of the I in PLURIBUS and the T in STATES lined up. On yours the right edge of the I is between the center and right edge of the T. Report this Post to the Staff
chris12018 Pillar of the Community United States 2130 Posts	Posted 02/05/2009 7:51 pm I have to admit I don't know much about half. I do think that these half dollar are the most attractive of all US coinage. But, that is my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
ron6788 Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 02/07/2009 05:49 am Hi, Chris. I haven't been able to spend much time here as I've been pretty busy at work. The latest pics didn't come out so hot but there does seem to be some die lumps or smudges on two spots of the coin. On some varieties that can actually be listed as a trait. I need to check again on the lg 0. In the new pic it looks smaller. The dent on the breast is from circulation. Ron Report this Post to the Staff
ron6788 Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 02/07/2009 2:57 pm Hi, again. OK, I'm home now and checked my book. The identifying characteristic of this coin is that the I in pluribus lines up in the center with the t in states. This led me to Overton variety 118. Other characteristics that fit this variety are that the 50 C is centered, the last a in america is very close to the top arrowhead, the stars are large, and the 0 in the date is small. To be sure, you need to check the shield closely. There should be a centering dot of metal in the crossbars. Look near the upper left part of the shield about 4 horizontal lines down from the top. I put arrows on your pic where I thought they could be but it's too fuzzy to tell. Lastly, a vertical line where I put the lower right two arrows is supposed to extend down beyond the border of the shield. It could be hard to see. These are features of the dies so all O-118s should have them. Ron BTW, as for the smudges that look like die lumps of metal, they're not mentioned so they could be natural or not. Report this Post to the Staff
ron6788 Pillar of the Community United States 655 Posts	Posted 02/07/2009 3:55 pm Chris, Here's a shot of your date again from your new pic, easier to see it's the more common sm 0. The bottom of the 0 doesn't line up with the 3 (because it's too small). The second pic is my coin, also a small 0. I wanted to post this one mainly to try out the arrow thingy that I just downloaded (search for the free app "alternate pic view"). Ron BTW, re: your original question about the size of the lettering, on the 1830 date it's not a grading factor like the size of the 0 is. It leads me to think the lettering's probably about the same on them all. Edited by ron6788 02/07/2009 10:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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