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United States
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A few months ago, I picked up an 1820 Capped Bust Dime for around $20. I already had both the large and small date 1820 dimes, so I only needed the "statesof" variety to complete my 1820 set. Lo and behold, I find this dime just waiting to slot right into my book. The first indication was the die state on the obverse at 9 o'clock. I think that is called a die bulge (correct me if I'm wrong), and it is characteristic of the 1820 "statesof" variety - specifically lower grade coins. Second, the top of the 1 in 10 C. is flat in this variety, and the only other 1820 dime that has a flat top 1 is the 1820 JR-8. Finally, as you can faintly make out under the scope, the final s in states is right next to the o in of. I'm curious to hear if any of you have a "statesof" variety in your collection (or any other neat bust dime/quarter/half dollar varieties). If so, I'd love to see some pictures.     |
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United States
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Nice work with the diagnostics! Although I would have a hard time myself buying a coin for the variety, when I can't even see the variety. Hopefully GERMANICVS will stop by and post some of his capped bust coins. He had a post where he showed his bust dime varieties a couple weeks ago.
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United States
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Always nice to find these hidden gems out there and fill those holes.
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France
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Here is the 1820 variant, submitted in numista  |
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Germany
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Here are two 1814 JR-5's, STATESOF variety. I think this variety shares the same reverse as 1820 STATESOF.  |
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United States
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im working up a set of capped bust Half Dimes as we speak. I took pictures of each of the statesofamerica dimes from the set. the reverse die is the same die on both coins according to the davis, logan, lovejoy, mccloskey and subjack book. coinenthusiast - you are correct that the thing at 9:00 on the obverse is a die bulge.     |
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United States
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I just picked up my 1820 "statesof" variety in an ebay auction today. I let the seller know what he had and if he wanted to stop the auction...so be it. He decided to let it ride and it came to me in the last seconds. I've also seen a couple uncertified 1820 "statesof" variety on ebay which are incorrectly assessed as the "statesof" variety. Approximately... almost half of the "E" in UNITED has to be above the banner to be the "statesof" variety.   Also, I added this biggie to my collection last week. If anyone knows where I can find the book..Early United States Dimes or even a copy of Bust Dime Variety Identification Guide ....I'd be grateful for a point in the right direction.   Also, I believe this is an 1821 JR-6 variety, but if I'm wrong please let me know. All photos are the seller's photos.   Edited by DoctorBurnzy
05/15/2023 5:10 pm
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Very nice!  |
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United States
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nice statedof capped dime, the last one in your hand does not appear to be one, but is a very nice coin, however, you should not hold your old silver coins like that. you will get oil and acids from your skin on it and potentially mar the surface with prints.
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United States
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Lost track of all the different dimes in this thread.
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United States
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@Dearborn All the photos of the 3 coins are the seller's photos. I was pleasantly surprised with the toner. It only shows some color at tilted angles. @Coinfrog...the post did ask for any other neat bust dimes. I consider the 1822 capped bust dime to be very neat...maybe uber neat. Lol. But, I have to admit the 1822 is not a variety.
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05/15/2023 10:33 pm
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United States
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ah, ok, didn't know that (did I miss that detail up above?) thanks for clarification. that last photo just looks to good to b an ebay image. |
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United States
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@ Dearborn. The actual coin is dark and only when tilted gives off a brighter orange color, but at no point is the whole coin giving off a reflectance of bright orange colors when tilted. That photo was manipulated a bit, but I actually like the coin better as is.
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Germany
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Doctor, those are some very nice dime additions to your collection!
The 1820 StatesOF, JR-1, (R-3) seems quite nice based on the pictures you posted. It shares the same reverse with the 1814 StatesOF which the OP posted. I wonder what it will look like in-hand.
Your 1821 is indeed a JR-6 (R-2). The 1 is high in the date as well as the second S in States.
The 1822, JR-1, (R-3+) you posted is VERY appealing! As you know, most 1822s are in grades of VG or lower, BUT in some way impaired - damaged or cleaned. Your is a nice exception. Congratulations.
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United States
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Thank you, GERMANICVS. I will be updating my spreadsheets with the rarity information you provided. I will try and have a friend snap a couple of photos of the 1820 "statesof" variety in-hand. The seller's photos weren't the best. I had been looking at a handful of VG 10s/VG08....even lower graded in the last 2 years coming to market in auctions and for sale on sites. I didn't find one I really liked, i.e., impaired/damaged as you expressed until I accidentally came across this one a month ago set for auction.
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05/16/2023 08:50 am
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Germany
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Doctor, I am surprised the Bust Dime ID Guide has become difficult to obtain. You could try to contact Winston Zack directly. He posts in a few Facebook Coin groups. I am sure he will help you if he has a copy to spare. Nice guy.
Yep, the 1822 is THE bust dime many early dime collectors are looking for. Not that many to go around, though. The other in great demand is the 1809. I remember a time around 10-12 years ago, 1809s were impossible to find.
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