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 to the community Please post a picture of the other side of the coin. |
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Edited by JohnConduitt
04/07/2022 5:46 pm
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It's a lot like a Livonian 3 Grossus, but the lettering doesn't seem to make sense, the keys are upside down and there's no date Considering the link,  I suspect it's some variety of contemporary counterfeit. A picture of the other side would still help, though. |
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 It's in pretty bad shape, I'm trying to clean it...I saw some similar coins but not the same... tnx :) i am just getting used to it. |
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The obverse is even cruder, and the bust is facing the wrong way for a Stephen Báthory or Sigismund III Vasa 3 grossus, which it still seems to be copying. Presumably, it's copper, not silver. It has to be a contemporary counterfeit, as @january1may says, no matter what coin it's meant to be. It's interesting, and probably rarer than the original.
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Thanks for the reply, I'm still trying to clean it by dissolving it in distilled water. I'm not sure it's copper, or maybe it's silver-plated copper because it shone silver when I found it. It seems that whichever coin I try is problematic to identify, I have another half of the coin I found, but it seems impossible to identify ... &  I'm posting a picture so maybe someone will recognize ... |
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I agree on all the comments on Coin #1. Looks like a poor counterfeit of a Bathory trojak. No ideas yet on coin 2. We can see some of the legend on each side (maybe IOAn in first photo; ChORES in the second?), but not enough to give a clear idea for me (and clearly second photo is a nimbate saint  Edited by tdziemia
04/08/2022 11:11 pm
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ChORES in the second? I read EChORA[S], but there's some evidence of a double strike at the apparent S, and I'm not very confident of the A either (but it matches the A in IOAN). There's no match on Numista (that I could find), and if that's really an A, it's a very unusual letter form for it. The overall style vaguely reminds me of Eastern European coins (Wallachia, Slavonia...) but I don't recognize this specific type either. Very intriguing coin! Quote:
and clearly second photo is a nimbate saint I can't think of any saint that would match the visible legend, though. |
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The number of saints that appear on medieval Italian coins is mind-numbing, and many I have never heard of. I vaguely recall seeing a saint with an unusual name like this one. I will see if I can find it. Edit: It is a 14th century denaro of Aquilea struck under the rule of John of Moravia (hence IOhAN on the obverse): https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...438&lot=1347I bid on that coin but lost (badly  ). Edited by tdziemia
04/09/2022 08:26 am
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Wow @tdziemia, you cracked it!  But what is the full inscription (looking at other coins of this type)? SANCTVS DEAMAEhORAS? Who/what is that?  |
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I don't know, I'm giving up looking for no1 coins. I also tried to look for some versions of Turkish because it was found near a former Turkish building, but there are no similar ones. There were too many people living in that area to be able to determine to whom it would belong ...
Thanks for the info for coin no.2 is pretty similar to this half of mine
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But what is the full inscription (looking at other coins of this type)? SANCTVS DEAMAEhORAS? Who/what is that? The inscription is SANTVS hERMAChORAS, corresponding to St. Hermagoras, the first bishop of Aquileia. See also: lamoneta.it entry (in Italian), coingallery.de entry (in German). [EDIT: fixed reference] Edited by january1may
04/09/2022 5:43 pm
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The inscription is SANTVS hERMAChORAS Thank you @january1may! |
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