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 Posted 02/05/2009  2:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tommy251 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What does the "S" mean after a date? I am new to coins and am trying to learn as much as I can before spending alot of money.

(Ex. 2006-S Silver Proof set)

Thanks for the help, Tom
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 Posted 02/05/2009  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
S = mintmark, San Francisco mint.
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 Posted 02/05/2009  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny pincher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things:

1. Welcome to the board.

2. There are no stupid questions, we learned these things somewhere in time and passing on the knowledge is what this board is for. Besides, if you do not ask, you will never know.
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 Posted 02/05/2009  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I'll take the question one step further. You may stumble across some other mint marks during your exciting new hobbie.(Sounds like a sales pitch, I know)
Heres some more.
"S",_San Fran
"D",_Denver
"P",_Philidalphia
"W_I NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE...I DUNNO, Washington, Wichita, hang on..West Point Military Academy?
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to CCF
That is correct the S stands for San Francisco mint
There are currently three mints in the US
San Francisco -> S
Denver -> D
Philadelphia -> P or nothing
West Point -> none (they do gold coins there)

There have been other mints in the past.
These are no longer in production
Carson City -> CC
New Orleans -> O
Charlotte -> C
Dahlonega -> D
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 Posted 02/05/2009  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't West Point (W) put out proofs now too?
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 Posted 02/05/2009  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wwhitman!!
I only collect Canadian so my U.S knowledge is limited, I just gave it a shot. Do you happen to know if the buildings where those redundant facilities still exist? Are some of the associated with Confederate money, or Civil war tokens? Can you still tour them?
Check out this same subject from the U.S mints web site (link below), and look at bullet point #8.Whats up with the 'W'?
http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_min...on=fun_facts
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The "W" is the West Point mint. They do currently Proof's of special coins such as the American Eagle in it's various forms and have done other "specials" in the past. Generally, the "W" mint mark is valued higher than similar coins from "P", "D" or "S".
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 Posted 02/06/2009  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add novillero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The "W" is the West Point mint. They do currently Proof's of special coins such as the American Eagle in it's various forms and have done other "specials" in the past. Generally, the "W" mint mark is valued higher than similar coins from "P", "D" or "S".


For the silver, gold and platinum American Eagles, West Point currently does the "burnished" proof eagles. Philly does the uncirculated eagles

West Point did all of the gold American Buffalos, and some of the commemorative golds (both unc. and proofs).

I do not know which mint does the presidential gold spouse series.
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Thanks..one last question, do the mints buildings still exist for below and can you tour them?.We're they primarily only used during the civil war, Union and Confederate associated mints.
Thanks
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I may be wrong,but I believe the old mints no longer exist
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Info on the New Orleans Mint:

About the Old U.S. Mint

The only building in America to have served both as a U.S. and Confederate Mint was built in 1835 during the presidency of Andrew Jackson who had advocated for its establishment in order to help finance development of the nation's western frontier. Renowned architect William Strickland designed the building using the then-popular Greek Revival style. Minting commenced in 1838. In 1861, when Louisiana seceded from the union, state authorities seized the property and transferred it to the Confederate Army. For a short time it was used to mint Confederate currency and to house Confederate troops. This ended when New Orleans was occupied by federal forces. Following the Civil War, during the period of Reconstruction, minting of U.S. coins resumed. Minting operations ceased in 1909 and, for the next 57 years, the Mint served a variety of official purposes. In 1966 the landmark was transferred to the state and in 1981 opened to the public as a State Museum site.
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Philly does the uncirculated eagles

All bullion coins are currently minted at West Point(with and without mint marks), Philly last did the Eagles in 2000.

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do the mints buildings still exist for below and can you tour them?.We're they primarily only used during the civil war, Union and Confederate associated mints.

The first branch mint, New Orleans, still exists. It is currently the Louisiana State Museum and was extensively rehabbed after Katrina ripped off the roof. There is an exhibit pertaining to the Mint operations along with a numismatic collection on loan from a couple New Orleans specialized collectors. One of them, Lynn Ourso, has a write-up of the Mint history on his website(he is also a very good dealer whom I have done business with on a few occasions). The New Orleans Mint operated under Louisiana control after the state seceded and then briefly under Confederate control until the silver stockpiles ran out. Only about 1/4 of the total mintage of the 1861-O half dollars was done under Federal control, the rest were Louisiana and CSA issues using the Federal dies. The only CSA coins ever produced(essentially patterns) were produced at the New Orleans Mint.

The other two southern branch Mints, Charlotte and Dahlonega, were permanently closed by the Civil War. Both of them briefly produced coins for the CSA until the gold also ran out. Dahlonega was destroyed by a fire in 1878 and Charlotte was dismantled and relocated in 1936 when the structure was scheduled to be demolished. It currently operates as the Mint Museum of Art and I could find no mention of a numismatic collection on its website but Wikipedia states that it has a complete collection of Charlotte gold so I am not sure

The Carson City Mint currently houses the Nevada State Museum and it does have a numismatic collection, including one of the original coin presses.

The original San Fransisco Mint, aka The Granite Lady(affectionately named because it was one of the few structures to survive the 1906 earthquake and it was key to restoring the financial viability of the city) is not currently open to the public. In 2006, a commemorative silver dollar was issued with a surcharge going towards a restoration fund for the Mint. It will eventually be converted into a California history museum complete with numismatic exhibits. The current San Fran Mint, built in 1968, is not open to the public.

The Denver Mint is the original building that opened in 1906 and tours are available.

Philadelphia has had four mints in its history and only the two most recent buildings still stand with the current one open for tours as well.

Finally, the eighth mint, West Point, is not open to the public and is a Fort Knox-like structure.

Technically, there is also a ninth mint although most collectors would be hard pressed to name it. The Manila Mint in the Philippines operated as a branch mint from 1920-1941 when the islands were a US territory. WWII effectively ended its tenure as a branch mint and of course, the Philippines were given their independence in 1946 so the mint was then operated under the auspices of the new government.
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Don't forget Manila, Philippines was a branch mint at one time in our history.

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The "Granite Lady" is not the original San Francisco Mint, it was the second S mint, the cornerstone being laid in 1870 and it opened in 1874. The original S mit was a small building just 60 feet square located on Commerce Street. I don't believe it exists anymore.

Then there is the US Mint that very few collectors know about. The US Mint at The Dalles Oregon. The mint was authorized, funds for its construction were appropriated, the Mint was built, and then they decided they didn't need it after all and it never opened. The Dalles Mint building is stil standing.
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 Posted 02/09/2009  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks ecveryone,....interesting histories and really answered my questions
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