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rosso_rubino Valued Member Italy 244 Posts	Posted 02/07/2009 12:54 pm Hello, can somebody help w/ yhis Chinese Cash Image: YungChengTungPao-or-sz.jpg 27.24 KB Image: YungChengTungPao.jpg 51.17 KB the first picture is the original size, second one is a bit bigger, anyway the coins is: Large: 24,6 mm thick: 1,2 mm weight: 3,9 g. it seems a Yung Cheng T'ung Pao, but the lower character (Cheng) is a bit too much different from all references I found, also the reverse has a mint mark I'm not sure to identify, It may be a S. 1456 but I'm not sure, or it may be just an imitation. Report this Post to the Staff

Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/07/2009 11:53 pm That appears to be a cash coin from 1723-1736, which was the reign of emperor Shih Tsung. It is the Boo- Yuwan (Board of Works) Mint. That is a fairly common cash coin, which is probably worth about $2-3. I'm not sure how the displaced material in the central square will affect the value. Nice coin all in all. Here is a link for a bit more info on this coin type: http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc...yung%20cheng Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 12:18 am That's a Boo yon--Yunnan mint. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 01:27 am DCH- really? hmmm that website which I referenced may be wrong then. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 02:08 am Not at all. Compare closely the Works mintmark (second pic down in the list of mintmarks) with the Yunnan mintmark (fourth pic down). You can see slight differences. Count the strokes between the O-shaped letter and the final A-shaped letter; there's two on Works coins, only one on Yunnan coins. This is a Yunnan coin. I suspect you're being thrown off by what appears to be a mark "underneath" the word, at 3 o'clock on the reverse. I think the bright spot there is not really part of the word, it's just a place where the black patina has been knocked off, exposing shiny metal underneath. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Edited by Sap 02/08/2009 02:09 am Report this Post to the Staff
rosso_rubino Valued Member Italy 244 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 08:04 am Thanks a lot, I checked in the site above mentioned and there is a reference to S. 1456 and it report Yunnan mint, anyway my biggest question was related to obverse bottom character, and also in this new site I didn't know (thanks) I'm not able to find a "Cheng" writed as in my coin example. But I'm supposing to have a small set of China cash coins (10) may be fake, since all of them are light compared to Schjot catalogue weight. I'm posting a new topic for Tao Kuang Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 08:17 am I've noticed quite a few Yunnan mint coins with strangely shaped characters. I mentioned a few in this thread. However, I don't know if it's a sign of careless "Yunnan mint" fakes, or careless, barely-literate mint workers from way out on the southern fringe of the Empire. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 02/08/2009 2:26 pm This coin has issues with calligraphy, but the weight is within tolerances. In 1734 the nominal weight was changed from 1.4 qian(5.22g) to 1.2 qian(4.48g). Hartill notes "...actual weights are usually 10% less than nominal and +/- 10%". Looking at the pieces posted on Zeno, weight varies from 6+ to ~3.4g Report this Post to the Staff
rosso_rubino Valued Member Italy 244 Posts	Posted 02/09/2009 03:00 am DCH, thanks a lot for these informations. Report this Post to the Staff
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