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Quick Opinion On A Coin In A Necklace.

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 Posted 06/06/2022  08:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know it's hard to tell without the obverse, but is this worth going to look at?
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 Posted 06/06/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess it's Severus Alexander, Rome. Bust of Severus Alexander, laureate, draped, right, IMP ALEXANDER PIVS AVG. Sol, radiate, nude except cloak over left shoulder, walking left, holding whip in left hand, P M TR P XIII COS III P P. RIC IV, 123 http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.sa.123

There's a nice one coming up for sale starting at CHF50 https://nomosag.com/default.aspx?pa...e=webauction
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 Posted 06/06/2022  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you @johnc. is the one I posted a photo of look like an authentic specimen to you? The letters look a little bubbly to me and, of course, it looks bronze and not silver, unless it was buried and is now heavily browned.
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 Posted 06/06/2022  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Roma.

Sometimes it is hard to tell from a photo if a coin is authentic, especially seeing only one side.

Your coin looks a bit strange to me. I don't see the convincing flow lines that you'd expect from a struck coin. Also, is there a casting seam at 6 o'clock?
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RIC IV, 123


Would it not more likely reference an AE issue with S-C across the reverse field?


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Your coin looks a bit strange to me.


Me too.
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 Posted 06/06/2022  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Bob and Bian, I agree with you. A friend sent this picture and suggested I take a look. He didn't get a photo of the other side. I thought I saw evidence of casting and the legends looked to bubbly and bloated to me; Just looking for some second opinions. I am inclined to say it's a reproduction.
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Would it not more likely reference an AE issue with S-C across the reverse field?

This is very true. There are a few possibilities depending how big it is...
http://numismatics.org/ocre/results...ulltext:XIII

I don't know if the bubbling means it's a reproduction. Bronze corrodes and it would depend on what came into contact with it. I've seen plenty of genuine coins with deteriorated legends, especially 3rd century. I don't think bronze has the same flow lines as silver either. That doesn't mean it's real.
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Thanks John. I may go take a look next week. It does seem like an odd bronze to fake. I think it was priced around $40; the necklace it is attached to is a nice piece of jewelry and likely worth that alone ... At least according to my friend who was more interested in the necklace... Anyway, if I get more pics I'll forward along.

@john, what do you think of the casting line?
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It's not worth much whether real or not, so it's an odd coin to fake. Maybe they made a hundred of these necklaces so needed a lot of them. But either they faked bronze disease/verdigris too, or more of the coin's surface was damaged by it.

The casting seam could be anything, without taking it out. The edges may even have been rounded off to prepare it for the necklace.
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