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1944 P Lincoln Cent Normal PMD Or DDO?

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Other than significant thickening of LIBERTY, IGWT and the date I haven't been able to confirm any DDO markers on Wexler or Coppercoins for my 1944 P Lincoln Cent. The thickness of side by side 1944 P's it's very apparent.

What do you think?

Thanks.


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Don't forget about http://varietyvista.com/ Always check all three. Please tell us where you are seeing a doubled die.
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This is an example of a 1944 with class VI doubling at the date. The extra thickness of the doubling is only seen on specific parts of the numerals like the tail of the 9 ,while other parts , like 2 o'clock on the upper curve of the 9 are of normal thickness. This is the distorted extra thickness to look for to identify a doubled die of this type. Overall extra thickness of the whole numeral or letter usually indicates a deteriorating die or circulation flattening.
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I'm not seeing anything on your coin that shows the distortion of a doubled die.


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If you are referring to the date it appears to be circulation flattening.
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Yes, circulation flattening in this case I believe.
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Just a well worn coin.



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Circulation flattening. Hadn't heard of CF. It appears my 44 is flattened in a very uniform manner both OB and REV and more consistent with a deteriorated die. Probably a combination of DD and CF. Also, I imagine CF could result in PMD that would obliterate any indication of a DDO/R. Thanks IJN, John1 and Stoneman. Learn something new every day.
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Yes and no to the circulation flattening obscuring a doubled die.
A die with minor doubling from the beginning may well lose evidence of its doubling on a well circulated coin. A well defined doubled die should present itself even on a well circulated coin , though you may have to know where to look (pick up points )
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Well, I'm late to this party, so I have to agree with flattening due to circulation. If there were doubling, you still see small remnants of it at the corners of the devices (at the serifs)
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circulation flattening.
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