1770 Mf Mexico & 1784 Da Santiago 4 Reales

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Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 02/10/2009 10:52 pm I have recently had these coins consigned to me and I wanted to share them with all of you before I sell them. They have been certified by Carl Clegg at www.columnarios.com. I still would like Swamperbob's opinion, though. Edited to add that all of these coins have been found to be counterfeits. The COA's do not belong to these coins. 1770 MF Mexico 4 Reales Weight: 13.40 grams KM#96 1784 DA Santiago (Chile) 4 Reales Weight: 13.53 grams KM#34 Report this Post to the Staff

GILADZUC New Member 22 Posts	Posted 02/11/2009 09:51 am A nice coin ! I saw only forgeries of that type until now. Report this Post to the Staff
manila galleon trade Pillar of the Community Spain 1361 Posts	Posted 02/11/2009 10:06 am nice and very dificult coins Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/11/2009 12:25 pm These too are great coins! I find it interesting though that both of these have such crisp details yet they have a major spot of weakness in the center of the coat of arms. I wonder if this is just strike though. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 02/11/2009 2:16 pm Very nice coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 02/13/2009 6:58 pm I have heard from Carl Clegg regarding two of the 8 reales coins listed. Apparently, they are counterfeits with forged COA's. I have ended the auctions for those two coins, but urgently recommend that no one bid on the remaining 4R or 8R coins until I hear from him to verify which coins are genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 02/13/2009 8:29 pm Honestly, the numbers of the date of the 1770 don't look quite right. Also, both coins do seem rather weakly struck in the middle of the shields of the coats of arms. Report this Post to the Staff
manila galleon trade Pillar of the Community Spain 1361 Posts	Posted 02/13/2009 9:09 pm Is that rust on the reverse at 6 o clock on the 1784? Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 02/14/2009 09:44 am The reason that disclaimer is on the columnarios site is because of the auctions that I had running. Apparently, the person who consigned these to me is a big distributor of counterfeits. After the emails verifying that the rest of the coins were counterfeit, Carl called me. We had a very nice conversation and I am very grateful that he alerted me to these coins. Report this Post to the Staff
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