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Valued Member
Germany
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I am new to collecting coins and bought a couple silver dollars (from private) in the last months. I did mainly go by gut feeling, but have studied various websites with grading advice. I am still quite unsure especially about the divisions between XF / AU and AU / MS. So I would now like to compare my grades to what the community here thinks. I hope the pictures are good enough. Here goes no. 3, a 1882 Morgan dollar mintmark O.   Edited by HP2001PH
07/15/2022 6:21 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We'll need the reverse pic to help.  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1519 Posts |
I am seeing a little wear and lister break on the fields, with these photos. AU-58
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the reverse pic. I'll say AU-58 "slider unc".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks to have hairlines . I will say AU Details
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Valued Member
 Germany
312 Posts |
I think I figured out how to make better pics, where you can see the surface better . Trying to understand the hairtline / sliders issue. I can see that the mint luster here on the fields is broken by fine lines, these seem quite chaotic to me. It is clear to me that this causes the coin to be not MS any more, but AU. I would have not thought that is a problem beyond that! Seems to be there is a lot to watch out for. That means AU is only good if the luster is removed, lets say in a "planar" way?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU-58, possibly cleaned. Quote:
It is clear to me that this causes the coin to be not MS any more, but AU. Wear is the primary difference from an UNC to AU coin. If there are hundreds of scratches on an UNC coin, it is still UNC, just a lower UNC grade. When the original mint surfaces are being wiped away from handling is when a coin is AU. A break in luster is a great example, because the original mint surface is no longer there, leaving the flat, worn silver instead of the glowing luster. This coin has incomplete luster on Miss Liberty's cheek, the surrounding fields, and the fields around the eagle. That disqualifies this coin from being uncirculated. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Valued Member
Germany
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Thank you for the explanation.
That means a good AU coin can be much nicer than a lower rated MS, right?
AU-58 would probably always more desirable then say a MS-61?
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Bedrock of the Community
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can you update your posts to state if you removed the top covers on them? I'm assuming you removed them for these photos Orleans mint morgans are more challenging to grade due to the strike issues at the mint. many after 1882 were soft until you get to 1898. that must be considered when grading as it can be construed as wear. the 82(O) was predominantly average strikes so this one is typical for strike. due to slight out of focus photos and lighting glare its difficult to determine luster the luster across the cheek is broken or missing and on the reverse look at the left wing tip as it shows signs of wear. I think this one is a slider at AU58. a decent pickup if you bought it at the grade. Quote:
That means a good AU coin can be much nicer than a lower rated MS, right? Yes, and I would rather have a nice AU58 than a crappy looking MS61 or 62 |
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Valued Member
Germany
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As in my other threads: Thank you, and I will strive to post higher quality pics in the future. I bought it on ebay, and the seller gave the cond. as „fast unzirkuliert" which is a literal translation of AU, but not actually a german type grade, I guess the seller was not a numismatist. Actually this was of the more expensive (relatively) coins I bought, got a little carried away bidding. What would it be worth in your opinion? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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if it grades AU58 and it grades straight the coin is in the $50 range at full retail and actually since its a fairly common date even if doesn't make AU58 its only a few dollars less
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU-58, signs of circulation.
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