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 Posted 03/11/2006  9:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a few coins that I am not sure where they are from or how to tell the year.
coin 1
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coin 2
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coin 3
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that number is 48

Please help with dates and id of these.
sorry about the picture still working on my setup


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 Posted 03/11/2006  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins of both threads are those from Japan.....sorry can't help you out as I know very little of Japanese coinage.
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 Posted 03/11/2006  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looking around a little they look like Japanesse you are right lim118, But does anyone know how to tell the date
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 Posted 03/11/2006  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Japanese coins do not use "conventional dates" that I am familar with...there are a few Japanese members here who might be able to help out.
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 Posted 03/11/2006  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add demonboy279 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top coin is a 5 yen or 10 yen dont member which and the 3rd coin is a 50 yen they are both from Japan. If you read the thread about interesting circulation finds in the main coin forum you will find the info you need for them. I posted a link to a site which has a link to download a pdf so you need adobe acrobat. It will tell you how to read the characters around the coin. Check it out and let me know how it goes. And what your date is. heres the link http://www.imes.boj.or.jp/cm/english_htmls/faq.htm
You should still check out the thread in the main forum. It tells what the denom is and has pics of mine and I think someone else has one on there to.
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 Posted 03/12/2006  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Top coin is a 5 Yen
second coin is a 10 Yen
Third is a 50 yen
forth in other topic is a 1 yen
Last is the 100 yen coin


"The Japanese year is written with the name of the reigning Emperor followed by the year of his reign and the kanji character for "year"".

So you need to know the year the Emperor started and that is Year ONE (not zero). The start of His second year is year two, etc.

The latest Emperor started in 1989, Year one. His name is one character followed by the japanese number.

But there are many of the older coins from the Previous Emperor still in circulation. His are easy to tell the difference as His name is two characters followed by the japanese number. His Reign was 1926 (year one) to 1989 (year 64).

This is the best site that I have found for converting Western years to Japanese years. You pick a date and can scroll thru to find your characters and you'll know the year of all your Japanese coins.

http://www.allcalendars.net/Japanes...onverter.php

I recommend you bookmark it for the next time you want a date from a Japanese coin or note.
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Excellent post and excellent link, toast.

DJ, if you're still having trouble, grab a copy of Krause. At the front is a handy table every darksider should be familiar with - a numeral converter from "normal western numbers" to just about anything likely to appear on a coin. Some of the countries with more difficult dating systems (like Israel, for example) also have a detailed "how to read dates" guide in the listing for the country itself.
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 Posted 03/14/2006  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of them are Japanese.

5 yen - Heisei 4, 1992
10 yen - Showa 56, 1981
50 yen - Showa 48, 1973
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 Posted 03/16/2006  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
The latest Emperor started in 1989, Year one. His name is one character followed by the japanese number.
Sorry friend, but you are wrong in multiple respects.

1. The Emperor's name does not appear on Japanese coins.

2. Every Nengo (era name), at least since the beginning of the 13th Century has been written with two characters and there has never been one with a single character.

3. The character "Ichi" ("1") is never used on coins minted in the first year of an era.

The "Nengo" or name assigned to the era of an Emperor's reign, forms part of every Japanese date, and therefore appears on all modern coins minted since 1867.

Current Emperor Akihito will be known as the Heisei Emperor after his death. (Although Wikipedia translates "Heisei" as "Peace Everywhere", the more accepted translation in Japan is "Achieving Peace".)

If you will look at the ¥5 at the top of the original post you will see the four characters "Hei" "Sei" "Yon" "Nen" ("Heisei 4 year")in the lower part of the second picture.

The second coin is a Showa 56 (1981) ¥10. That one's date characters (also on the second picture of the coin) are "Sho" "Wa" "Go" "Ju" "Roku" "Nen". Numbers between from 10 to 99 are read as decade number, ten, final number (if any). The date on that ¥10 is read as 5 x 10 + 6 = 56.

A Japanese date in the first nine years of an era would have four characters - the two characters of the Nengo, one character for the year number, and the Nen character. After that the even decade years will have five characters - inserting "Ju" ("10") just before the Nen. The rest of the years (<100) will have six characters, with an additional number between Ju and Nen.

The character "Gan" ("First") is used in the first year of an era, instead of the character "Ichi". Because in modern times the era begins and ends with the reign of an Emperor some years on the western calendar have two designations in Japan. 1989 was such a year, as Showa 64 in early January, and as Heisei Gan upon the death of the Showa Emperor (known as Hirohito during his lifetime). (Coins were minted with both dates)

Western numerals have been used between the Nengo and Nen on ¥50 coins (as in the third coin pictured) since Showa 42 (1967) and on ¥100 coins since Showa 39 (1964), but only for the Nengo year. The western calendar date has only appeared on commemorative coins for Olympic Games held in Japan - 1964, 1972, and 1998 for the Tokyo, Sapporo and Nagoya events; but in each of those years the full Japanese date was also used.

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Arigado Tomo san.....I have learnt a lot from your post.
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 Posted 03/17/2006  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks tomo for the correction and explanation.

I compounded my mistake by putting my information in this thread.
https://goccf.com/t/4272

I would be pleased if you would copy and paste your correction into that thread also.

I often make mistakes but I'm always willing to learn. Thank you.
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 Posted 03/17/2006  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great post Tomo.

Welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy your stay here.
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 Posted 03/17/2006  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Georgiestar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice set of coins you have there! I love the holes
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